- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 06:31:19 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
- cc: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
There is work on turning RDF into SVG and VRML - have a look at the rdf interest group archives for discussions about GraphViz (for example http://lists.w3.org/Archive/public/www-rdf-interest/2000Apr/0008 although there are others), a tool that does this. Danbri and Dan Connolly (within W3C) and others have worked on extracting navigation information into RDF. I have worked (in another context) on adding dictionaries to things (and there are plenty of other people who have too). So a lot of the tools stuff can be done, if we can bring together the right pieces. Likewise, we need to work collaboratively to prduce results in the form of examples - if one person had the answers we wouldn't need a working group in the first place. cheers Charles McCN On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Al Gilman wrote: At 03:13 PM 2000-04-08 -0400, Marja-Riitta Koivunen wrote: >At 06:18 PM 4/8/00 +0100, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: >>william wrote: >>WL: We're eagerly looking forward to see your development of this >>graphical representation. >> >>I have tried to indicate to everyone on this list that it is a group effort >>that is required. >>I have already produced http://www.peepo.com/access > >I hope you mean you would want to have feedback from the site? Here are my >main comments from a general usability perspective: > >Quite a lot of this page is actually text - In my point of view the >simplification comes from having only a little text in one page, no >paragraphs, just main thoughts in one sentence or a word. Is that what you >are aiming to? Is it better to have many pages with little information or >couple of pages with more information? > >The hello icon does not give me much information and I need the text to >understand it. But I can learn it if it is used consistently in many >places. I might also want to use my own memory aid icons from my personal >library but this is currently not straightforward to do, maybe adding icon >annotations to a page could help with CD? AG:: The ideal would be to attach images selected by the user to match-patterns in the structure graph of the site. So the icon would recur when the navigation structure pattern is detected on another site. MRK:: > >What I would add to the site, is to have a graphical navigation bar to >illustrate the site structure instead of textually saying to continue to >the next page and other textual links. That navigation bar should give >feedback about where the users are (what they selected) and where they can >go (other items in the navigation bar). > AG:: Links covering a neighborhood of where you are now is a navigation resource. Indented table of contents bar is best current presentation of this on Web today. VRML of where you are in a Jungle Gym abstraction of the site is perhaps a yet more compelling metaphor. Al >Rigth now if I select links along my way and then try to think were I ended >to and how to get back, or what else there is, I'm in trouble. Navigation >bar functions as a memory aid to me. > >I hope this helps a bit forward. > >Marja > -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia
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