- From: Chris Ridpath <chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca>
- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:12:30 -0500
- To: "WAI ER IG List" <w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
- Message-ID: <024301c3c63a$23af9c20$b040968e@WILDDOG>
Saliesh, I'm forwarding your message to the WAI ER list so there can be public discussion on the good points that you raise. I haven't added any fields to the checks database that hold author/contributor information but this is a good idea and I'll implement something in January. Your comments on the improper marking of list elements: >a. consecutive lines of short text that are not in one paragraph >element which have been marked up with a heading tag (h1 to h6) >at the same level. > I have checks that cover using headings for formatting [1]. See checks 42-47 I've put these under the WCAG2 HTML techniques 3.2 - Style Headers [2]. >b. a layout table in which one column has a bullet (a character or an image l >ike a star, arrow etc) and the next column has an item of text in it. > The WCAG2 HTML techs[3] state that you must use only list elements to mark lists so this use of the layout table to markup a list is wrong: I can write up a check to detect this misuse of the table formatting. >c. Consecutive lines with a bullet (a character or an image like a >star, arrow etc) followed by an item of text. > This sounds like misuse of the P element to indicate lists. I can write up a check to detect this misuse of the P element. >Many sites prefix text links with word like "link to", the org's name, >or the like that results in inefficient first letter navigation of links from >within a list of links. (List of links are presented by screen-readers for >instance). > I don't see anything in the WCAG2 techs links section [4] that states what's appropriate for link text. I know there has been discussion[5] about this issue but it appears that nothing has made it into the techniques. Michael - Should there be something in the WCAG2 HTML techs that deals with link text? References: [1] http://tile-cridpath.atrc.utoronto.ca/tile/accessibilitychecker/guidelines/checks.html#check42 [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/#hx-style [3] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/#lists [4] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-HTML-TECHS/#links [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2003JulSep/0269.html Thanks for the suggestions. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Sailesh Panchang To: chris.ridpath@utoronto.ca Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: A new check for the Open Accessibility Checks Hello Chris, Couple of checks I can think of that can be incorporated and even automated: (By the way, is there a list of contributors where one gets a mention and acknowledgment?) problem 1: Often items that can be marked up as a list are not so marked up. It makes sense if one can detect non-linked text that can be marked up as a list. Detection with reasonable level of certainty is possible by identifying : a. consecutive lines of short text that are not in one paragraph element which have been marked up with a heading tag (h1 to h6) at the same level. i.e. a bunch of lines all marked up as h3 or h4 etc. This also suggests misuse of heading tag for font and perhaps need for using list structure. b. a layout table in which one column has a bullet (a character or an image like a star, arrow etc) and the next column has an item of text in it c. Consecutive lines with a bullet (a character or an image like a star, arrow etc) followed by an item of text. Problem 2: Many sites prefix text links with word like "link to", the org's name, or the like that results in inefficient first letter navigation of links from within a list of links. (List of links are presented by screen-readers for instance). Also these redundant prefixxes imply that: - probable need for grouping links, - key words or phrases are not being used to begin link names, and - the link is probably longer than it should be. Detection with reasonable level of certainty is possible by identifying : A finite number (say 3 or 5, etc that is user definable) of links on a page that begin with the same word(s) Sailesh Panchang Senior Accessibility Engineer Deque Systems,11180 Sunrise Valley Drive, 4th Floor, Reston VA 20191 Tel: 703-225-0380 Extension 105 E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com Fax: 703-225-0387 * Look up <http://www.deque.com> *
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