- From: Leonard R. Kasday <kasday@acm.org>
- Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:18:45 -0500
- To: webmaster@dors.sailorsite.net, Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
- Cc: w3c-wai-er-ig@w3.org
Bruce, I've got to take issue with your statement that >Some of your examples for alt content for bullets and lines are counter >indicated. There is no other way to say this but that <Q>alt="bullet"</Q> >and <Q>alt="horizontal rule"</Q> are just WRONG. Perhaps these should >even be treated as suspicious? ALTernative text should capture the >intent/function and not be solely pseudo-descriptive. Using a value of >"---" for ALT is infinitely better than using "bar". This question keeps coming up. When I did a "survey" a few years ago "bullet" got the highest ratings. See http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday/web_access/surveys/alt-text.html I put "survey" in quotes because there weren't many responses. Also the difference in prefernce between "bullet" and an asterisk is not statistically significant. Now we can take a more philisophical approach and argue that "bullet" describes appearance rather than function. However, this is inconsistent with recommending "----" which also describes appearance, using ASCII art no less. Furthermore, even though "bullet" describes appearance, it has acquired the meaning of "list item" in at least some subcultures. In the AT&T subculture, for example, we would say things like "I have a comment about the third bullet" In fact, the Cambridge Dictionary http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk/elt/dictionary/ has the following definition: "A bullet is also a symbol, often a small black circle, used in printing and sometimes in writing either to show the beginning of or to separate items in a list. " Note that it says "often a small black circle". So they are implying that appearance may vary. So they are defining it semantically, not by appearance. I therefore think it's a good choice philisophically as well. I move therefore that we recommend "bullet". Len >I ------- Leonard R. Kasday, Ph.D. Institute on Disabilities/UAP, and Department of Electrical Engineering Temple University 423 Ritter Annex, Philadelphia, PA 19122 kasday@acm.org http://astro.temple.edu/~kasday (215) 204-2247 (voice) (800) 750-7428 (TTY)
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