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Re: EOWG Tables tutorial worksession Monday 5 May

From: Denis Boudreau <dboudreau@accessibiliteweb.com>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 14:47:04 -0400
Cc: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, Eric Eggert <ee@w3.org>
Message-Id: <51C8F7CD-8E42-4BA0-98DE-0A4661D64FF2@me.com>
To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
Hello EO,

As promised this morning, here are a few test cases to validate the support and behaviours of “irregular" data tables, to which a the first column would all be header cells with the information organized as rows instead of columns. The TH elements have been assigned a scope attribute in the first example, and no such attributes in the second example. Findings are reported under each example. The third example is only there to compare behaviours when the header cells are on the first row as opposed to the first column. Results are… well… disappointing. Unless I missed something, we need to reconsider the examples accordingly (or at the ver least, thoroughly test how is table is conveyed in various browser/at combinations):


While I’m very confident about the reliability of the tests under VoiceOver and NVDA, I’m less confident about JAws, which I barely use. So anyone willing to double check that is more than welcomed to do so. 

As usual, questions and comments are welcomed.

Also, I had mentioned proposing another complex table example for multiple rows of header cells and/or multiple columns of header cells. This example is below:

<caption>Fruits Inventory</caption>
			<td rowspan="2">&#160;</td>
			<th id="variety" rowspan="2">Varieties</th>
			<th id="quantity" colspan="2">Quantity</th>
			<th id="delivery" rowspan="2">Delivery</th>
			<th id="store1" headers="quantity">Store 1</th>
			<th id="store2" headers="quantity">Store 2</th>
			<th rowspan="2" id="apples">Apples</th>
			<th id="spartan" headers="variety apples">Spartan</th>
			<td headers="quantity store1 apples spartan">50</td>
			<td headers="quantity store2 apples spartan">50</td>
			<td headers="delivery apples spartan">June 1st</td>
			<th id="macintosh"headers="variety apples">MacIntosh</th>
			<td headers="quantity store1 apples macintosh">50</td>
			<td headers="quantity store2 apples macintosh">50</td>
			<td headers="delivery apples macintosh">June 15th</td>
			<th id="oranges">Oranges</th>
			<th id="navel"headers="variety oranges">Navel</th>
			<td headers="quantity store1 oranges navel">100</td>
			<td headers="quantity store2 oranges navel">100</td>
			<td headers="delivery oranges navel">June 30th</td>


On May 2, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi EOWG folks,
> We will have another worksession on the Tables Tutorial, focusing on <https://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/tables/caption-summary/> and <https://w3c.github.io/wai-tutorials/tables/tips/>
> 	Monday 5 May 2014
> 	1:00 Central / 2:00 Eastern / 20:00 CEST
> Remember to get all your comments on the Tables Tutorial into Github, e-mail, *or* wiki <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Tutorials/Feedback/Tables> *by Wed 7 May* so that Eric can address everything and prepare for a (hopefully final) discussion at our 9 May teleconference.
> Thanks!
> ~Shawn
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