Re: Phrase with "from using the web" - Re: w3.beta Comments for discussion

I'm really sorry this didn't show up in time to influence our discussions,
but I think it should take a place in the front of our minds.

Her video on ageing people using the Web is a masterpiece, by the way.

It is possible to view an online version here (RealPlayer needed):
http://www.fundp.ac.be/universite/services/save/streamlistinfo.html
Select the first video with title"Senior web surfer".

Love.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Isabelle Motte Namur <
isabelle.motte@fundp.ac.be> wrote:

>  Hello EOWG members,
>
> I did not participate to your debates for a long time but I followed the
> last discussion with interest.
> I worked on seniors accessibility difficulties and on WCAG 2.0.
>
> What seemed much important for me is that accessibility question do not
> only concern people with disabilities.
> A website respecting WCAG 2.0 will not only be much more accessible for
> disabled people, it will also help the elderly and also people WITHOUT
> disabilities. In a lot of countries of Europe, most websites challenge the
> ergonomic and usability rules.
>
> So for me, accessibility is a public concern.
>
> I think if you want it to become a public concern, you have to present it
> as a public concern.
>
> I think seniors are a numerous target group that will make accessibility
> considerations to be a priority for the next years (the age pyramid is
> turning upside down). You should perhaps insist on the seniors' case.
>
> An other idea that I found to be important is that W3C standards evolve and
> that they will adapt to new needs, new researchs and new technologies. A lot
> of countries that have a legislation about accessibility do not refer to W3C
> standards but to local set of rules. I find it strange because they do not
> consider the necessity of evolution. It is a great idea to insist on the
> necessity to refer to evolving standards and to a group that remains
> studying accessibility. This will much legitimate your job.
>
> These are my comments on your work.
>
> By the way, great idea to make a new website that looks much more sexy for
> people without disabilities AND that remains accessible to disabled persons
> ... You also have to convince commercials that it is possible to make
> websites sexy AND accessible.
>
> Isabelle
>
>
>
> Shawn Henry a écrit :
>
> catherine wrote:
>
> Finally, I reiterate that, for the content at the aforementionned URL,
> second paragraph, last sentence, it is preferable to convey that
> innaccessible ressources exclude people (and not "disable people"). I really
> do feel that it puts a negative spin on the state of disability that is
> unnecessary in this context.
>
>
> Hi Catherine,
>
> Several EOWG participants like the phrase as it is at the end of this
> paragraph:
> "The web is a flexible medium that enables most people with impairments to
> use the web just as well as anyone. Think about what this means: There is
> inherently no such thing as a disability using the web. ...However: When
> websites and web tools are not accessible, they disable people from using
> the web."
>
> With the addition of "from using the web" does this still bother you? Can
> you say more about it to help us understand your perspective?
>
> (Note that that paragraph is likely to be rewritten -- but it still helps
> us to know your perspective so the rewrite can take it into account.)
>
> Thanks,
> ~Shawn
>
>
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