Re: Comments on "instructions for the coponents ..."

Hello again.

I took a pass at clarifying this. http://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/components/ now says:
"
* Tutorial designed for self-study [Draft] (updated @@ 2009) - see _Tutorial Instructions_ below.
* Presentation format (updated @@ 2009) - compatible with Microsoft PowerPoint, Open Office Impress, and some other presentation software; see _IMPORTANT: Notes Section for Presentation Materials_ below.
* HTML/CSS for presentations [Draft] (updated @@ 2009) - compatible with HTML Slidy and S5 slide formats; see _IMPORTANT: Notes Section for Presentation Materials_ below.
"
Tutorial Instructions starts out: "This tutorial runs in a web browser. If you do not have JavaScript, all topics are shown on one web page. With JavaScript, you can see individual topics in a page and use the following functionality:"

IMPORTANT: Notes Section for Presentation Materials starts out: "The presentation slides themselves have limited text so that participants do not have to read much during a presentation. The Notes section contains important information."

---

The challenge here is to make it clear for new visitors, yet simple and uncluttered for repeat visitors. That is, we want the top part to be fairly simple links for people who will use these and other WAI slide sets repeatedly. Yet we want people first coming to one of these pages to be able to figure out the differences.

Note that we have several slides instructions pages (e.g., http://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/WCAG20_benefits/ ), and so far this is the only one that also has a tutorial.

Best,
~Shawn

Shawn Henry wrote:
> Hello Sylvie,
> 
> Thank you very much for sending comments to the list today.
> 
> To clarify:
> * The "Tutorial format for web browsers - designed for self-study" 
> displays each topic in its own page and readers step through 
> pages/topics in the tutorial, that is, each topic in its own page. 
> (However, this functionality requires JavaScript.)
> * The "Web format (HTML/CSS) for presentations - compatible with HTML 
> Slidy and S5 slide formats." is a single HTML file formatted so that 
> presenters can use an HTML slide setup and only limited information will 
> be displayed, with the rest of the information in Notes that are not 
> displayed.
> 
> I guess we need to explain that better in the page. We can discuss this 
> more in the teleconference.
> 
> About your comment: "In the sections "advice for presenters" and 
> "permission and reference", I wonder if it would be useful to copy and 
> paste the sections from the WAI presentations page" in order to let the 
> reader have an imediate access to the content of these sections instead 
> of clicking the links you give." -- this is related to a broader issue. 
> To help keep the topics clear, please reply to the email message sent 24 
> June with subject "WAI slides instructions", which is archived at 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2009AprJun/0121.html
> 
> Thanks!
> ~Shawn
> 
> 
> Sylvie duchateau wrote:
>> Hello Shawn and all,
>> I thinked I missed the teleconferences where you decided to include 
>> the term "tutorial" in the page:
>> "Instructions for the Components of Web Accessibility Presentation" at:
>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/components/>
>> When (re)reading the page, I think there should be a heading 
>> "introduction" or "how to understand this document", or anything else 
>> to introduce the part that explains which documents are described on 
>> this page.
>> While reading this section, it is not clear to me what is the 
>> difference between the pages:
>> "• [Draft] Tutorial format for web browsers (updated @@ 2009) - 
>> designed for self-study", which is in HTML and the page:
>> "[Draft] Web format (HTML/CSS) for presentations (updated @@ 2009) - 
>> compatible with HTML Slidy and S5 slide formats."
>> For those who do not know slidy and S5, it may be useful to explain 
>> what the difference is.
>> In the sections "advice for presenters" and "permission and 
>> reference", I wonder if it would be useful to copy and paste the 
>> sections from the WAI presentations page" in order to let the reader 
>> have an imediate access to the content of these sections instead of 
>> clicking the links you give.
>> Best
>> Sylvie
>> Shawn Henry a écrit :
>>> EOWG,
>>>
>>> "Components of Web Accessibility" Presentation and Tutorial material 
>>> has been updated at:
>>> 1. instructions overview page 
>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/components/>
>>> 2. Tutorial format for web browsers 
>>> <http://www.w3.org/Talks/wai-components/all.htm>
>>> 3. Web format (HTML/CSS) for presentations 
>>> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/slides/components.html>
>>>
>>> Please review these and send comments to the EOWG mailing list, or to 
>>> Shawn@w3.org
>>>
>>> This is on the EOWG agenda for this week, 17 July, so please review 
>>> it before the teleconference.
>>>
>>> OPEN: We need someone to make a PowerPoint version.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~Shawn
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Shawn Lawton Henry
>>> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> e-mail: shawn@w3.org
>>> phone: +1.617.395.7664
>>> about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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