- From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:34:48 -0500
- To: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
- CC: Yeliz Yesilada <yesilady@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Message-ID: <4A161D58.1080809@w3.org>
EOWG: We received comments from the WCAG WG on the MWBP-WCAG documents, which are archived at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-eo-editors/2009May/0003.html Alan has integrated them into the technical document Editor's Draft at: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/drafts/latest Yeliz implemented them into the Shared Experience document, which is attached (the same information in linear and tabular format). Below are some points for discussion on these documents. > * "Embedded non-text objects (images, sound, video) with no text > alternative" & "Important information in non-text content (images, > multimedia, CSS effects)" seem like the same use case. Recommend > combining. Also, the Web context gets into the area of > accessibility-supported Web technologies (Information not available > to user whose browser, assistive technology, other user agent > doesn't support object). I prefer to keep these two separate as I think even though they overlap they focus on different barriers. > * Free-text entry (for example, alphabetical characters allowed in > numeric fields) - references WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 10.4 (include > place-holding characters in text areas) and WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1 (non- > text content). The issue being described here is a user with a > mobility impairment who has trouble entering information or a > mobile device users who must use a small keypad. WCAG 1.0 10.4 (pri > 3) is a work-around for user agents who don't support empty > controls well. And WCAG 2.0 1.1.1 is not relevant at all because > text areas are not "non-text content". WCAG 2.0 does have some SC > around errors in forms but I don't think they are related to the > MWBPs for this use case (MINIMIZE KEYSTROKES, PROVIDE DEFAULTS, > DEFAULT INPUT MODE). I recommend that this use case be deleted from > the table. I think this an interesting use case and it is a nice one that shows overlaps. In fact, the listed MWBP explicitly references to WCAG 10.4 <http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#MINIMIZE_KEYSTROKES>. I agree that WCAG 2.0 1.1.1 may be is not very relevant, but may be we can refer to Guideline 2.1 here or Guideline 3.3. > Operable > > * Scripting required to operate or generate content - references > WCAG 2.0 keyboard SC 2.1.1 and 2.1.3. I don't think there is a > mapping to a WCAG 2.0 SC for this. Rather it maps to the concept of > relying on scripts as an accessibility supported Web technology. Not sure how to address this. ###
On 20 May 2009, at 23:03, Shawn Henry wrote: > [*** Yeliz's document ***] > > Perceivable > > * Multimedia with no captions - references WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1. > Should reference 1.2.2, 1.2.4, and 1.2.8. Replaced WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1 with these three SCs. > * Audio-only prompts (beeps) for important information (warnings, > errors) - references WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1. Should reference 1.2.1. Replaced WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1 with 1.2.1 > > * Embedded non-text objects (images, sound, video) with no text > alternative - typo - "losses information" should be "loses > information" Fixed this typo. > > * "Embedded non-text objects (images, sound, video) with no text > alternative" & "Important information in non-text content (images, > multimedia, CSS effects)" seem like the same use case. Recommend > combining. Also, the Web context gets into the area of > accessibility-supported Web technologies (Information not available > to user whose browser, assistive technology, other user agent > doesn't support object). I prefer to keep these two separate as I think even though they overlap they focus on different barriers. > * Free-text entry (for example, alphabetical characters allowed in > numeric fields) - references WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 10.4 (include > place-holding characters in text areas) and WCAG 2.0 SC 1.1.1 (non- > text content). The issue being described here is a user with a > mobility impairment who has trouble entering information or a > mobile device users who must use a small keypad. WCAG 1.0 10.4 (pri > 3) is a work-around for user agents who don't support empty > controls well. And WCAG 2.0 1.1.1 is not relevant at all because > text areas are not "non-text content". WCAG 2.0 does have some SC > around errors in forms but I don't think they are related to the > MWBPs for this use case (MINIMIZE KEYSTROKES, PROVIDE DEFAULTS, > DEFAULT INPUT MODE). I recommend that this use case be deleted from > the table. I think this an interesting use case and it is a nice one that shows overlaps. In fact, the listed MWBP explicitly references to WCAG 10.4 <http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#MINIMIZE_KEYSTROKES>. I agree that WCAG 2.0 1.1.1 may be is not very relevant, but may be we can refer to Guideline 2.1 here or Guideline 3.3. > * Content formatted using tables or CSS, and reading order not > correct when linearized (for example when CSS or tables not > rendered) - the experience for this use case is "User cannot access > the correct ordering of the information on a page because the > content is garbled." Recommend changing this to "User cannot > understand the content correctly when it's presented in a linear > order." Done. > Operable > > * Scripting required to operate or generate content - references > WCAG 2.0 keyboard SC 2.1.1 and 2.1.3. I don't think there is a > mapping to a WCAG 2.0 SC for this. Rather it maps to the concept of > relying on scripts as an accessibility supported Web technology. Not sure how to address this. > * Special plug-in required - same issue as scripting required. > Also, there is a typo in this line. It repeats the column header in > the Disability context column. Removed the repeated column header. > * Non-descriptive link label - disability context sounds like blind > users can only read links out of context in a list. Suggest > changing to "User who is blind often accesses a list of links on a > page without the context around them." Updated that sentence. > Understandable > > * Blinking, moving, scrolling, or auto-updating content - > references WCAG 2.0 SC 3.2.5. I think it should also reference > 2.2.2. In the disabilities context, there is also the distraction > issue. Added a reference to 2.2.2. Regards, Yeliz.
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