- From: Andrew Arch <andrew@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:54:52 +0100
- To: Yeliz Yesilada <yesilady@cs.man.ac.uk>
- CC: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
Hello Yeliz, Thanks you for the all the comments and suggestions. The mobile device ones will be considered in the next revision of this document; others were useful for this version. Andrew Yeliz Yesilada wrote: > Please see my comments below for these pages. They are all OPTIONAL. > > On 4 May 2009, at 18:04, Shawn Henry wrote: > >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/Overview.html > > 1. In this paragraph "While accessibility focuses on people with > disabilities, accessibility also benefits older users, mobile phone > users and other individuals, as well as organizations that develop > accessible products. Older users with age-related accessibility needs > are an increasingly important customer base for most organizations as > the percentage of older users is significantly increasing. Organizations > with accessible Web sites can also benefit from search engine > optimization, increased customer loyalty, demonstration of corporate > social responsibility, and reduced legal risk.". I think the second half > of the first sentence does not add much to the overall message of that > sentence ("as well as organisations..."), instead I would recommend to > talk about the benefits of accessibility for people with low literacy, > people with low bandwidth connections, etc. > > In this parag., we can also add a sentence about the benefits of > accessibility for all, for instance the Mobile Web or when temporary > disabilities are experienced. Thanks - good suggestions. I will consider changing. > 2. In the following sentence "In order to be willing to invest the > initial costs, many organizations need to understand the social, > technical, and financial benefits of Web accessibility and the > expectations of the returns throughout the organization.", it would be > good to add legal factors as well so the sentence would read "In order > to be willing to invest the initial costs, many organizations need to > understand the social, technical, financial and legal factors of Web > accessibility and the expectations of the returns throughout the > organization." Thanks, but not adopted as we lose the key word "benefits" that might attract readers. > 3. The section "How to use this document" introduces the five pages that > form this resource suite but it doesn't present what these pages are. I > think it would be good to list those five pages here, at least mention > what they are. I know they are explained in detail in the following > section, but here it is not clear what these pages are. Good idea - done. > 4. In the section "Factors in a Business Case for Web Accessibility", > under social factors, we can also talk about the benefits of > accessibility for the Mobile Web. > > 5. In the section "Examples of How Factors Differ Across Environments", > under "government ministry or agency", we can also talk about the > cost-savings in in-person or paper-based services when people are able > to use their services from their mobile devices. > > 6. In the section "Examples of How Factors Differ Across Environments", > under "educational institution", we can also talk about the benefits of > accessible Web for mobile Web based learning. > > 7. In the section "Examples of How Factors Differ Across Environments", > under "SME", we can also talk about the benefits of accessibility for > being able to support Mobile commerce. > > 8. I think in the related resources section, it would be good to > re-order the listed resources so that "WAI Resources" is the first item. > >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/soc.html > > 1. In the first parag, I guess the last link label has to be "Developing > a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization: Overview". This > comment is valid for all the other sub-pages. Changing this would interrupt the reading flow; also, the link text reflects the name of the suite and links to the overview page which is sufficient. > 2. In the section "Identifying Social Factors for a Specific > Organisation", in the last question, we can also give "Mobile Web" as an > example. > > 3. In the section "Number of people affected", we can also briefly talk > about the number of mobile Web users. I think it is not a good idea to > give a number as it changes everyday, but we can briefly mention that > there quite a lot of mobile Web users who can benefit from accessible > Web sites. > > 4. In the Section "Overlap with Digital Divide Issues", we can also > briefly mention the work by the "Mobile Web for Social Development, > http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/" working group. How developing countries > could possibly benefit from accessible Web? I know that the following > sections briefly mentions people that use older technologies, etc., but > it might be good to explicitly talk about that work here. > > 5. In the section "Web Accessibility Benefits People with and Without > Disabilities", we can also add a subsection that introduces the overlaps > between mobile and accessible Webs. > > 6. I am not sure if it is a good idea to refer to specific checkpoints > or success criteria in each subsection of the section "Web > Accessibility Benefits People with and Without Disabilities". Do we > assume that people who will read these pages will have technical > knowledge of these guidelines? Wouldn't it be better to briefly > introduce the overlaps and then refer to the other documents that give > the technical overlaps?. We have a wish-list item to allow people to reveal/hide these which would address your point. Leaving for another revision. >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/tech.html > > 1. Similar to my previous comment, do we assume that people who will > read these documents, will have technical knowledge of the guidelines? > If that's the assumption, please ignore my comment, but if that's not > the assumption, I wonder if it is a good idea to refer to WCAG 2.0 > success criteria and WCAG 1.0 checkpoints. These references are also not > linked to the relevant technical document, so if one wants to read more > information about them, then they have to go and manually find them. > >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/bcase/fin.html > > 1. In the section "Increased Web Site Use", in this sentence > "Accessible sites can be used by more people -- including people with > disabilities, older people, people with low literacy, people who are not > fluent in the language of the site, people with low bandwidth > connections to the Internet, people with older technologies, and new and > infrequent Web users, as discussed in Social Factors -- thus increasing > the market segments and number of people who can successfully use the > site.", we can also talk about the Mobile Web users. > > 2. In the section "Increased Web Site Use", in the part "Increases > potential use in more situations", we can extend this and talk about the > temporary disabilities that people can experience (e.g., low bandwidth, > connection charges, device limitations (no mouse, etc)). Thanks for this idea - incorporated > SOME EXRA COMMENTS: > 1. I realised that in some pages of the suite you question if you have > enough evidence. Regarding the evidence for each of these factors, what > about referring to studies like this: > <http://inova.snv.jussieu.fr/evenements/colloques/servonline/Actes/description_ang.php?id=49&num=45> Thanks - adding these kind of studies is something to consider for another revision.
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