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Re: EOWG [Friday 24 April] eGov comments ready to submit

From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:08:43 -0500
Message-ID: <49F5AE5B.2020504@w3.org>
To: Anna.Zhuang@nokia.com
CC: w3c-wai-eo@w3.org
Hello Anna,

Thanks for your additional thoughts. Indeed the comment period for this document was 10 March through 26 April. EOWG has been discussing it since 27 March[1], and submitted our comments on 25 April. 

I think your points will be adequately covered by what we have already done:

* While our comments include specific wording suggestions, they also explain about the problem with current wording, with the intent of educating the editors and writers. We pointed this out in our submission: "Please note that the comments include discussion of some significant issues on how accessibility and people with disabilities are addressed in the document. We encourage all authors and editors to carefully read our notes to help clarify misunderstandings, and avoid additional problems as the document is further edited." - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Apr/0174.html

* Sharron Rush is now actively involved with the eGov group. Our comment submission also stated: "EOWG welcomes the opportunity to answer your questions related to Web accessibility and writing about people with disabilities and older people. (For example, you should be careful to avoid wording that assumes that all older people have disabilities or accessibility needs.)" And EOWG also asked to review the edited draft before publication.

* Judy's comments address covering accessibility at a higher level - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2009AprJun/0042.html

> One more idea that is off the topic but should serve to improve the document. They should have some sort of brainstorming to share (positive) experiences of different people in different countries and try to reflect them in their document. This will bring document down to earth and closer to life.

You are welcome to submit this comment as an individual; we will not be able to process it through EOWG due to the timing.

Note that the document is currently planned to be completed and published on 12 May.

I think that you would be welcome to join the eGov IG mailing list and even the group as a participant if you are interested in contributing more directly.

Regards,
~Shawn

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2009JanMar/0119.html

Anna.Zhuang@nokia.com wrote:
>  Hello Shawn,
> 
> Looks like I am late with my comments but I will still try my luck. Following the last week's call I got one idea and unfortunately could not communicate it during the call as I lost connection while driving. 
> 
> Compiled list gives feedback and suggestions to specific parts of the document. It has been however acknowledged that commenting document that we hope is going to be rewritten is not an easy task. So my idea is: whereas is it good to point at specific places where problems are found, it might be even better to compose a summary of complaints and improvement ideas. This will give a stonger overall message because a new editor of the document might skip some of the detailed comments because he would assume that changing or removing some parts of text remove the overall issue. If we make a general list of issues new editor has to keep in mind when updating the document this would be a good overall checkpoint for him or her. 
> 
> So I suggest to compliment the list that has probably been sent out already with a general level suggestions/recommendations/improvement ideas that eGov IG needs to keep in mind while writing/rewriting/updating their document.
> 
> One more idea that is off the topic but should serve to improve the document. They should have some sort of brainstorming to share (positive) experiences of different people in different countries and try to reflect them in their document. This will bring document down to earth and closer to life.
> 
> Br, Anna 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of ext Shawn Henry
> Sent: 24 April, 2009 21:08
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> Subject: EOWG [Friday 24 April] eGov comments ready to submit
> 
> Dear EOWG participants,
> 
> Our final comments on "Improving Access to Government through Better Use of the Web" <http://www.w3.org/TR/egov-improving/> are online at:
> 	http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/comments/eGov-2009-04.html
> 
> We need to submit the comments this weekend. If you see any issues before we submit them, please send your comments to the EOWG list right away. We did put in the comments "(In order to submit these comments before the deadline, minor changes were made after EOWG discussion and all participants may not have reviewed them before they were submitted.)" If you see any issues after they are submitted, we can still go back and offer changes to the eGov Interest Group.
> 
> Regards,
> ~Shawn & Sharron Rush (who did the bulk of the comment drafting and editing)
> 
> 
> 
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