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RE: Web Accessibility and Mobile Phones doc for 4 January 2008 Teleconference

From: Swan, Henny <Henny.Swan@rnib.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:46:01 -0000
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To: "Shawn Henry" <shawn@w3.org>, "Alan Chuter" <achuter@technosite.es>
Cc: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>

Hello and Happy New Year,

Only one comment to add. The document title "Web Accessibility and
Mobile Phones" is good but I prefer mobile devices. "Phones" feels too
restricted in my head somehow.

Thanks, Henny

-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Shawn Henry
Sent: 03 January 2008 22:44
To: Alan Chuter
Cc: EOWG (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Web Accessibility and Mobile Phones doc for 4 January 2008

Thanks for the comments, Alan. I made a few changes, and left the others
for EOWG discussion.


Alan Chuter wrote:
> I like the idea of the subtitle. The title "Web Accessibility and
> Mobile Phones" is short and easy to grasp, while the subtitle
> qualifies it. Perhaps "Web Content for People with Disabilities and
> Mobile Phones" might work, too.
> The terms "global", "all time high" and "surge" In the first sentence
> are a bit overwhelming.
> For the navigation, I think that "Mobile Overlap" is too narrow.
> although the MWBP document is about the overlap, this one can be wider
> in scope. Perhaps "Mobile Web" covers the concept more completely.
> Accessibility is evident from the context.
> The "W3C Guidelines Overlap" doesn't seem to quite fit in the section
> "Similar Barriers and Solutions", as it also applies to "Doing Both"
> and "Resources". The latter actually describes the overlap, so perhaps
> it should be expanded to describe it more explicitly, rather than
> being a separate resources section. Perhaps there should be "Similar"
> and "Both.." sections, and then explain how this plays out in W3C
> Recommendations, and finally what we're doing to bridge the gap.
> Perhaps the document should explain that the two fields tend to have
> their own specialists who are not too aware of what the others do, or
> what the (perceived) other group of users need, and that many people
> with disabilities are in both groups. And that the Recommendations are
> developed by and for different groups within W3C, and the effect this
> tends to have.
> best regards to EO people for the New Year 2008,
> Alan
> .
> On 03/01/2008, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> wrote:
>> EOWG,
>> I hope that you had wonderful holidays!
>> At the EOWG teleconference this week, we will discuss the updated
WCAG-MWBP intro document at
>> In the meantime, please comment on the list about:
>> * Title: We had talked about a shorter title; however the editors
feel that the shorter options aren't sufficient - especially given that
"accessibility" doesn't have anything to do with people with
disabilities for many, especially in the context of mobile. Are you OK
with the title of "Making a Web Site Both Accessible for People with
Disabilities and for Mobile Devices", or would you strongly prefer a
short title with subtitle, e.g., "Web Accessibility and Mobile Phones:
Making your Web site both accessible for people with disabilities and
for mobile devices"?
>> * Navigation: for the WAI nav bar, we'd like a couple word shortname.
How about "Mobile Overlap"?
>> In the information architecture <http://www.w3.org/WAI/sitemap.html>,
should it be located under:
>> - "Introducing Accessibility" because it's a basic concept?
>> - "Guidelines & Techniques" because it is introducing the detailed
technical documents of the overlap between WCAG and the Mobile Web Best
>> - "Managing Accessibility">"Implementation Plan for Web
Accessibility" because it's about considering both sets of guidelines in
your web development process?
>> - "Managing Accessibility">"... Business Case..." because it supports
the additional benefit of accessibility?
>> * Any other comments or suggestions for this first version? Do you
approve this document for publication?
>> Regards,
>> ~Shawn
>> for Justin, document editors

Shawn Lawton Henry, W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/
phone: +1-617-395-7664
e-mail: shawn@w3.org


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