- From: Andrew Arch <andrew.arch@nils.org.au>
- Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 00:24:39 +1100
- To: "'Judy Brewer'" <jbrewer@w3.org>, "'EOWG'" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
A few additional comments on the draft below: Table of Contents Additional comment - Why doesn't the ToC precede the Introduction in the complete.html version? (http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/complete.html) As a result of it's current position it appears on page 12 when I print the document. Guidelines Para 14 - "how to meet" loaded quickly for me - but I am on a DSL connection. May be we could suggest that the "Understanding" document gets broken down by Guideline for quicker access (as well as offering the entire doc)? New comments: Guideline 1.1 - SC 1.1.5 currently reads "For live audio-only or video-only content ...", however given the linked text it should read "For live audio-only or live video-only content ..." Guideline 1.1 - SC 1.1.6 is confusing. The current "how to meet" describes captions as synchronised and describes audio description as something added to the soundtrack. The SC says to provide a combined document of these - maybe it should say to provide a separate text document containing the content of these. And I personally think this should be a Level 2 SC as it is about content design. I'll add other Guidelines comments over the weekend Regards, Andrew _________________________________ Dr Andrew Arch Vision Australia - Accessible Information Solutions 454 Glenferrie Rd, Kooyong 3144, Australia Ph +61 (0)3 9864 9282; Fax +61 (0)3 9864 9370 http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/ais/ -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Judy Brewer Sent: Friday, 6 January 2006 4:31 PM To: EOWG Subject: [DRAFT] Second capture of draft EOWG comments on WCAG 2.0 EOWG: In the following draft, please note the multiple locations where there is "**EOWG" at the start of a comment -- that means that we have remaining questions to discuss in our 6 January 2006 teleconference. - Judy Following is a SECOND DRAFT of EOWG comments on the 23 November 2005 WCAG 2.0 draft documents, as discussed in EOWG teleconferences on 9 and 16 December 2005. Please note that with the exception of our comments on the normative glossary entries, the majority of these comments are editorial in nature. The documents that EOWG reviewed include: A. http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20051123/ B. http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-WCAG20-20051123/appendixB.html C. http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/ D. http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag20.phpb A. DRAFT COMMENTS ON WCAG 2.0 WD ---------------------------------------- ABSTRACT 1. It's not sufficiently clear in the abstract that the success criteria are what one needs to conform to. We suggest adding something simple, straightforward, and difficult-to-miss up front in the abstract, such as: "The WCAG 2.0 success criteria are what one must conform to in order to meet the guidelines." STATUS 2. Though the content of this section will change some with each subsequent draft, it is valuable information for reviewers. Given this, it would be helpful to clearly state the status in the first paragraph following the boilerplate paragraph, e.g.: "This document is a Public Working Draft made available for community review" followed by the current contents of paragraphs 3 & 4, rolled together ("Publication as a WD does not imply..." and "The WCAG WG intends...") 3. For future drafts, we recommend breaking out the questions into a list (in the paragraph starting with "The WCAG WG encourages feedback...") and/or highlighting the questions, so that they do not become lost in the rest of the text, given the importance of the feedback process. TABLE OF CONTENTS 4. There needs to be a "next" link at the bottom of the table of contents so that the reader will not come to what looks like a dead end. INTRODUCTION 5. [Third paragraph] The list of what WCAG 2.0 includes is missing "Checklist." 6. ["Related documents" first paragraph] "Only this document (WCAG 2.0) is normative." Please clarify whether the Checklist is also normative. 7. ["Related documents"] Though much clearer than in earlier drafts, the Introduction is still somewhat confusing. We recommend making more distinction between the list of what's included in "this document" e.g. WCAG 2.0 at the top of the "Introduction" section, and the list of "informative documents." Just re-iterating "other" in the lower section might help, e.g. "Currently, these other informative documents include:" Also, the bolding on the document links is distracting; we suggest removing it. CONFORMANCE 8. [Whole section] The Conformance section here is not really introductory-level material, yet it is part of the Introduction; it's very in-depth and essential information on conformance, with strong bearing on the how the guidelines can be normatively applied. People new to Web accessibility will most likely still need a true "introduction" to conformance, inotherwords a quick & simple "heads-up" for why conformance is even an important consideration for Web content accessibility, plus a quick preview of some initial concepts that will be used in the more complete explanation of conformance. Please consider adding a true intro to conformance in the "Introduction," and break out the existing in-depth conformance info into a separate section from the "Introduction." 9. ["Assumptions/baseline"] To increase the cross-disability diversity of the examples "(Assistive technologies include screen readers, screen magnifiers, on screen and alternative keyboards, single switches, and a wide variety of input and output devices that meet the needs of people with disabilities)", add voice recognition. 10. ["Assumptions/baseline"] *Important*: Please make it very clear that the examples of baselines for given contexts are hypothetical, not actual. 11. ["Note" (immediately following the description of level 1, 2, 3 success criteria)] "Some guidelines do not contain level 1 success criteria, and others do not contain level 2 success criteria." -- It would be more accurate and clearer to say: "Some guidelines do not contain success criteria at every level." 12. ["Delivery unit"] See comments in "GUIDELINES" and "GLOSSARY" sections on delivery unit. 13. ["Authoring Tools"] While EOWG appreciates the need to help build awareness of how WCAG relates to other WAI guidelines and resources, as currently written this section does not seem to fit well in the Introduction. We do not have a specific recommendation at this time on how to improve it, but would support finding a better way to integrate this rather than entirely removing it. GUIDELINES **EOWG Please check the two questions here** 14. [Overall comment for the guidelines section] The navigation and transition into this section is better than in previous versions, but still confusing for some people. [*EOWG -- we need to clarify what/why.*] When you click on the "how to meet" links, it is unclear that you are going to a specific location within the "Understanding" document because of the size & delay in loading that document. [*EOWG -- please confirm that this was the problem that we identified.*] 15. [4.1.1] "4.1.1 Delivery units can be parsed unambiguously and the relationships in the resulting data structure are also unambiguous." -- this is tough to understand, even for people with strong technical background. EOWG was unable to come up with a better suggestion, but perhaps taking a common word and defining it precisely in the context of WCAG would be preferable to using such an obscure term as "delivery units." "Parsed unambiguously" also creates problems in interpretation, and perhaps it should be clarified that this pertains to syntax not semantics. **EOWG are there really no other comments on anything in the "guidelines" section of WCAG 2.0 WD?** GLOSSARY **EOWG Please check, I have revised this comment** 16. [Overall comment on Glossary] The glossary is in some cases used for more than giving a description or definition of a word or phrase, it provides in-depth information about how a certain principle is applied in a guideline, or how to conform to a guideline or success criteria. If the are normative, should the detailed information be built back into the success criteria, which is the essential core that will be referenced by organizations requiring compliance to WCAG 2.0? If not normative, should the detailed information be built into the "how to meet" section of the "Understanding" document? Examples: "general flash threshold," "link," "luminosity contrast ratio," "red flash threshold," and the second part of the "event handler" description. 17. ["Emergency: a sudden, unexpected situation or occurrence that requires immediate action to preserve health, safety or property"] EOWG recommends removing this item from the glossary as it is a commonly used term, and the definition here does not provide information of specific relevance to WCAG. **EOWG Please reconsider this comment in the original context of the document** 18. ["Foreign passages or phrases"] The term "foreign" does not capture the common situation of multilingualism in many countries, where another language than the primary language of the text is not necessarily "foreign." EOWG recommends replacing this with "change of language." [**EOWG However, that does not fit back in the original context well: "3.1.2 The natural language of each foreign passage or phrase in the content can be programmatically determined." Other suggestions?] 19. ["Delivery unit"] The glossary link should be helpful, however the linked-to definition is still difficult to understand. It is not helpful to see the note stating that this definition is verbatim copied from another group's definition. 20. ["Information conveyed by color" and "Information that is conveyed by color"] One of these entries must be a typo. Also, we are unclear why this phrase appears in the glossary, rather than in a "key terms" section in "Understanding WCAG 2.0." **EOWG Please re-clarify why we said that the definition was ambiguous...** 21. ["Keyboard Interface"] The definition is difficult to understand and needs clarification. **EOWG Please re-examine our comment in light of original context...** 22. ["Live audio-only" and Live vide-only"] EOWG recommends considering the phrases "audio-only live presentation: and "video-only live presentation" because they more clearly describe certain kinds of presentation. Also, in the description of "live audio-only," the second time 'only' is redundant. 23. ["Lower secondary education level and Primary education level"] Rather than trying to define these terms, which despite using a UN definition are so different in different cultures, EOWG proposes looking at scales of literacy levels rather than educational years. **EOWG discussion and approval** 24. In addition, please see eight items for discussion and coordination at top of page http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/glossary/2005-12-13 B. COMMENTS ON CHECKLIST FOR WCAG 2.0 --------------------------------------- [#] [*EOWG: Are there really no comments at all on the Checklist?*] C. COMMENTS ON UNDERSTANDING WCAG 2.0 -------------------------------------------------------------- In general this document seems very helpful. However, EOWG participants expressed concerns about the title and the organization of the document. [Title of document] EOWG had lots of discussion about concerns about the title of the document, and concerns about how the title might be misconstrued. Concerns included: - the title of the document should better convey that this document is essential to read; "Understanding" implies something more reflective and less essential to read. - the title of the document may unnecessarily reinforce the notion that WCAG 2.0 is incomprehensible. Other titles to consider: - The Essential Guide to WCAG 2.0 - A Guide to Meeting WCAG 2.0 [Organization of document] Concerns about the organization of the document included: - whether too much essential information necessary for conformance had been moved to this document, and some should be re-integrated back into the primary WCAG 2.0 document, so that it will be present in the referenceable document; - whether the "Understanding" document should itself be on a W3C Recommendation track, similar to some other document suites such as OWL (see "OWL Web Ontology Language Overview" and "OWL Web Ontology Language Guide", both W3C Recommendations) and RDF (see "RDF Primer," a W3C Recommendation). - whether the material in "Understanding WCAG 2.0" should in fact be broken up yet further, into more modules. ### -- Director, Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) MIT/CSAIL Building 32-G530 32 Vassar Street Cambridge, MA, 02139, USA __________________________________________________________________ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed Spam messages and set aside Later for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
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