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Re: complete survey form - Call for Review [EOWG: Review Evaluation Resource Suite documents]

From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:02:44 -0500
Message-ID: <4326DC04.3070004@w3.org>
To: "Lipkina, Natasha (hp.com)" <natasha.lipkina@hp.com>
Cc: "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>

Hi, Natasha,

I second Shadi's thanks for starting the review and checking in. :)

About the scope of your comments: This is an interim step of putting the re-organized pages on the new site as soon as feasible, as described in e-mail[1] and discussed at the recent teleconferences[2]. We plan to do a significant re-write of the content later in 2005 or 2006. Note that we do not plan to announce these pages as complete until after the next iteration (so this interim solution shouldn't get much attention). The main focus of the current editing and review is ensuring that the documents stand alone.[3] We also want to address any serious concerns with the content now, and record issues to address for the next revision.

It looks like the scope of your review is right on target. What is needed is indication if you think the issues you point out must be addressed before we put these interim pages on the new site, or if they may be addressed with the upcoming content revision.

About the format: The comment feature in Microsoft Word is difficult for some people to access and use (some people may not even have Word). Here are other options, in the order easiest for the editor to process:
1. use the format Shadi lists below. put those comments into the Call for Review survey form.
(e.g., here is the output from comments in a previous form on the business case: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-eo-editors/2005Aug/0010)
2. put comments in the format below. send them to an EOWG list. (e.g., http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JulSep/0144.html) complete the form and in the comment field, put the URI of your e-mail in the list archives (listed at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JulSep/)
3. send your comments any way you can (even comment feature in Word) and ask someone to post them in a format that others can get to them :-)

Feel free to call me if you have any more questions or need clarification.

~ Shawn

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JulSep/0147.html & bottom of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JulSep/0154.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/09/09-eo-minutes.html#item02
[3] See review questions under #2 in the Agenda at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2005JulSep/0140.html

Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
> Hi Natscha,
> Thank you for starting to review the Evaluation Suite and to check back 
> on the format of your comments!
> It is helpful to paste the relevant text of the sections you refer to in 
> each comment in order to make these easier to understand. However, I 
> your attachment I only see the original text without any description of 
> what your comment is, and what you suggest.
> Please find pasted below an example of the recommended format for 
> sending comments, it is taken from Shawn's WBS form (sent yesterday to 
> the group):
> ---
> * priority: [editor's discretion]

shawn adds other options for if it is a suggestion for "editor's discretion" for this version or later, or if you feel it must be addressed before this version is posted, or if it is for the list to be considered for the next version

* priority: [editor's discretion] or [required in this version] or [list for next version]

> * location: first paragraph, first sentence
> * current wording: "Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility" is a 
> multi-page resource suite that...
> * suggested revision: "Evaluating Web Sites for Accessibility" is a 
> really, really long multi-page resource suite that...
> * rationale: we should warn them up front that it's a big set of documents
> ---
> Hope this helps!
> Regards,
>  Shadi
> Lipkina, Natasha (hp.com) wrote:
>>  Hi Shawn,
>> Attached is the word document with my comments re "Evaluation Resource
>> Suite"
>> I have just started my review and wanted to check in with you whether I
>> am on the right track regarding the scope of the feedback and re format
>> of my comments.
>> Best regards,
>> Natasha Lipkina
>> HP, Internet & Marketing
>> 650-236-5409 -----Original Message-----
>> From: w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-eo-request@w3.org] On
>> Behalf Of Shawn Henry
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:21 PM
>> To: EOWG (E-mail)
>> Subject: complete survey form - Call for Review [EOWG: Review Evaluation
>> Resource Suite documents]
>> Importance: High
>> EOWG,
>> The "EOWG Call for Review: Evaluation Resource Suite, 2005 September"
>> online survey form is available at:
>>     http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/eval-2005sept/
>> We plan to post the new pages to the WAI Web site this Friday if we get
>> sufficient replies to the survey and no objections by:
>>     Thursday 15 September
>> Please see the e-mail below for more details. Note that all EOWG
>> participants in good standing must complete the Call for Review. Also
>> note that you can change your answers at any time.
>> Regards,
>> ~ Shawn & Judy & Shadi
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: EOWG: Review Evaluation Resource Suite documents
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:24:54 -0500
>> From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
>> To: EOWG (E-mail) <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
>> EOWG,
>> We will be issuing a Call for Review early next week, 12 September, for
>> some evaluation documents. All participants in good standing need to
>> complete the review form. Please plan to review the documents described
>> below early in the week and complete the Call for Review form by
>> Thursday 15 September.
>> See below for details and information on what is ready for review right
>> now. Comments received by Monday morning Europe time can be addressed
>> before the Call for Review.
>> In previous EOWG meetings we decided to make some interim changes to the
>> Evaluation Resource Suite, including breaking up into separate pages:
>>    http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/
>> EOWG decided to address only open change log items and serious concerns
>> with the content of the existing pages, and to hold off on any
>> significant editing and minor issues. We expect to do additional minor
>> editing in the 4th quarter (4Q) of 2005, and to re-write much of the
>> evaluation documents in 2006 with changes based on WCAG 2.0 and other
>> developments.
>> In today's teleconference[1], EOWG agreed to put the evaluation
>> documents on the new site at different stages, rather than waiting until
>> all of the documents are complete. The plan is:
>> * Evaluating Accessibility Overview - update on new site with the next 3
>> documents below (target: 16 Sept)
>> * Preliminary Reviews - put on new site as soon as feasible (target: 16
>> Sept), edit more later
>> * Conformance Evaluations - put on new site as soon as feasible (target:
>> 16 Sept), edit more later
>> * Specific Contexts (was Special Considerations) - put on new site as
>> soon as feasible (target: 16 Sept), edit more later
>> * [User Evaluation] (new content) - complete & put on new site in 4Q
>> 2005
>> * Selecting Tools (new content) - put on new site as soon as feasible
>> (target: 16 Sept, might have minor edits after the sortable tools list
>> is done
>> * Tools List (already on new site) - leave version as is on new site for
>> now, complete sortable version & put on new site in 4Q 2005
>> * Review Teams (already on new site) - review in 4Q 2005
>> * Reporting Template (already on new site) - review in 4Q 2005
>> The following documents will be included in the  Call for Review:
>> - Evaluating Web Accessibility
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/Overview.html
>> - Preliminary Review...
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/preliminary.html
>> - Conformance Evaluation...
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/conformance.html
>> - Specific Contexts...
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/considerations.html
>> - Selecting Web Accessibility Evaluation Tools
>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/selectingtools.html
>> As explained above, the focus of the review is on serious concerns
>> before this draft is posted to the new site, and not on low priority
>> revisions that can be postponed for later. (Feel free to also record
>> ideas for later revisions, and clearly indicate them as such.)
>> These documents are complete, yet there are a few open changes from
>> today recorded in the changelogs, the minutes from today's
>> teleconference[1], and the wai-eo-editor's list:
>>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-eo-editors/2005Sep/
>> Shadi plans to incorporate these changes by Monday, 12 September.
>> If you have additional comments, please clearly indicate if you think
>> they are *required* to be addressed before this version is put on the
>> new site, or if they are *optional* for this version and may be
>> postponed and recorded for the next revision at the editor's discretion.
>> Copyedits go to the editors list: wai-eo-editors@w3.org and content
>> comments go to the main EOWG list w3c-wai-eo@w3.org
>> We plan to post the Call for Review form on Monday 12 September. If we
>> can get sufficient replies to the Call for Review by Thursday 15
>> September, we should be able to post the pages to the new site on the
>> 16th. (Otherwise, it will be another 2 weeks after that due to Shawn &
>> Shadi's schedules.)
>> Thanks for your efforts in reviewing the evaluation documents.
>> Regards,
>> ~ Shawn & Shadi & Judy
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/09/09-eo-minutes
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