- From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
- Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 07:57:06 -0700
- To: E & O <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
JB:: "good, bad, improvements?" WL: By a "boggled mind" I mean that you have gone from some beginning notes to a full-fleshed, incredibly already usable, impressive entity in what seems like a short time while still appearing before a sub-committee, attending more teleconferences, and replying to more email and interview requests than I could have even when in full possession of my faculties. Midn-boggling was in this case congratulatory. JB:: "Do you have the link for this?[retrofitting paper] WL: I think I was trying to suggest creation of a "retrofit how-to" by those who've done a LOT of retrofitting. We often comment on how difficult this is and such a resource would argue on both sides of that question. Retrofitting a site with a million PDF files will be lots harder than adding a few dozen ALTs, etc. But a recount of the details involved in a typical effort might be inspirational for some Webmasters who would be daunted by the entire "How to Make an Accessible Site" training course. JB:: "Not sure what you mean here [back button wear]. WL: I go down four levels from the document I'm reading and want to go back to what started this off - I must hit back and (in my case of slow uploads) wait a long time for each preceding link to reload, hit back again, etc. Sometimes the back button shows a pull-down from which I can skip some steps and I don't know if that's a universal feature of all browsers and if it always works - it's slow and erratic like tooltips. JB:: "are you saying that the document set is indeed too layered now" WL: Exactly the opposite. I think the power of the Web and an important aspect that this document can illustrate is in the proliferation of easily used inline hyperlinks. I suggest that making hyperlinking addictive we will hasten the "everything" part of "everyone, everything connected". Skipping footnotes, etc. will speed reading and in the process make, e.g. everything pertaining to everything available from everything, if you take my meaning. I can start off reading about making my site accessible and wind up learning about Wittgenstein and Punk Rock and somebody else winds up discovering that there's water under the surface of Mars. To be more specific about the instant issue: more links from the central document and lots of "central documents". The current one is starting well and as I go through it I will make more specific suggestions - it would just be nice to be able to actually test them in a "scratchpad space" of my own rather than just talking about them. This would allow me to be more specific and avoid Charles' chastisement about how easy it is to "talk the talk" but let's have some specific language, etc. - with which I fully agree. QuickTips didn't have this problem because a suggestion was specific language: you couldn't get away with "let's just terserize the guidelines". Generalities become specifics when one must test on one's own version of a document what one proposes. Len has suggestions for a tool - he writes one. I think a path should be explored - put my keyboard where my mouth is. Group authoring can't be done on a single master copy and without the experience of testing ideas on one's own the input will be as vague as that about which you query me when (if) I suggest "improvements". Instead of "try this" (to some editor) - "I tried this and you can see it at..." Chuck had slides to work with and it's clear that access to them couldn't be manifold but the feedback/modification process might be improved if those making suggestions were enabled/forced to test them - hence the idea of having my own copy of the entire thing to jack with. -- Love. ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE http://dicomp.pair.com
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