- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:29:50 -0500
- To: 'Jan Richards' <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>, 'Phill Jenkins' <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: 'WAI-AUWG List' <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>, 'Andi Snow-Weaver' <andisnow@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-cg@w3.org, 'Ben Caldwell' <Caldwell@trace.wisc.edu>, 'GVAN' <GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU>, 'Loretta Guarina-Reid' <Loretta@guarino.com>, "'Loretta@Google'" <Lorettaguarino@google.com>, 'Michael Cooper' <cooper@w3.org>
- Message-id: <00a501c7cff6$048f40b0$24c480de@NC84301>
Hi Jan,
This is interesting (pulled your text out from below to make it easier to
find - and then just
- formatted it as a definition
- added "Web content" in front of "technology" in the note, and
- changed the order FROM rendered, executed or played TO
rendered, played, or executed.
Web Content Technology
mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered, played or executed by
user agents
NOTE: Web Content technologies may include markup languages, data formats,
or programming languages that authors may use alone or in combination to
create end-user experiences that range from static Web pages to multimedia
presentations to dynamic Web applications.
EXAMPLES: Some common examples of Web content technologies include HTML,
CSS, SVG, PNG, PDF, Flash, and JavaScript
Thoughts?
Gregg
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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-cg-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-wai-cg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jan Richards
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:59 AM
> To: Phill Jenkins
> Cc: WAI-AUWG List; Andi Snow-Weaver; w3c-wai-cg@w3.org
> Subject: Re: "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" definition for ATAG2
>
>
> Hi Phill,
>
> Thanks for your comments. This is obviously a key definition
> that many groups are interested in, so I don't want to give
> anyone the impression that I'm trying to do this alone. My
> thoughts are in-line, marked by "JR":
>
> Quoting Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>:
>
> JR: First a clarification of the term in question. By
> "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" I meant "Web Content Technology".
>
> > I would recommend including the notion of encoded formats
> or content
> > types that require a plug-in. For example, many content
> types require
> > a "plug-in" to render the content. I suppose a plug-in is a user
> > agent within a user agent that can't render the content
> type itself directly.
>
> JR: In my proposed definition, I had intended "data format"
> to include these things, but I'm open to wording that
> clarifies this. In general, I think plug-ins can be assumed
> to be part of the user agent.
>
> > I would separate your definition to distinguish or define
> interactive
> > content types. Such as forms and widgets that change the visual
> > presentation, such as expanding or collapsing a tree view,
> something
> > more than just "clicking on a link" to go to another
> content type page or view.
> > FLASH is an example of an interactive content type while
> an MP3 file
> > is only "played" or rendered in audio by the player or
> plug-in. You
> > always interact with the user agent, but many content types include
> > interaction inside the content rendered by the user agent.
>
> JR: Maybe the the following changes would address this
> (changes in CAPS):
>
> "A mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered,
> executed OR PLAYED by user agents. Technologies may include
> markup languages, data formats, or programming languages that
> authors may use alone or in combination to create end-user
> experiences that range from static Web pages TO MULTIMEDIA
> PRESENTATIONS to dynamic Web applications. Some common
> examples of Web content technologies include HTML, CSS, SVG,
> PNG, PDF, Flash, and JavaScript."
>
>
> > I would strongly recommend NOT using the term "technology"
> to replace
> > content type or format. Technology, Information Technology, and
> > Electronic & Information Technology (E&IT) are much higher
> level terms
> > that often include the user agent, the operating system, and the
> > hardware to render the information.
>
> JR: I'm not fixed on "technology", though as my clarification
> above points out, the full term is "Web content technology".
>
> > I would NOT include the notion of "programming languages" in the
> > definition of "content", but I agree it is part of the higher level
> > term of "technology", because much of the "programming
> logic" can he
> > hosted on the server or hidden on the client and is used to
> manipulate
> > the content based on user interaction and outside inputs (i.e., RSS)
>
> JR: I don't want to speak for the WCAG-WG here, but the WEB
> CONTENT Accessibility Guidelines does cover user interfaces
> generated by executing program code so I think it makes
> things more clear if the term WEB CONTENT is defined to cover this.
>
> > I copied Andi Snow-Weaver, a member of the WCAG 2.0 working
> group and
> > co-chair of the 508 TEITAC Web & Software Subcommittee that is also
> > dealing with definition. The definition and terms need to
> harmonized
> > across WCAG/ATAG as well as 508 and other standards.
>
> JR: Thanks. The more people thinking about this, the better
> chance we have of getting it right.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Phill Jenkins
> > IBM Research - Human Ability & Accessibility Center
> > http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca> Sent by:
> > w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org
> > 07/25/2007 02:49 PM
> >
> > To
> > WAI-AUWG List <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" definition for ATAG2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Monday's call, the term "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" was
> introduced as
> > a potential replacement for "Content Type" in ATAG2 and
> "Technology"
> > in WCAG (it came out of a meeting between Michael Cooper,
> Al Gilman and I):
> >
> >
> > TECHNOLOGY, Web Content
> >
> > A mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered or executed by
> > user agents. Technologies may include markup languages,
> data formats,
> > or programming languages that authors may use alone or in
> combination
> > to create end-user experiences that range from static Web pages to
> > dynamic Web applications. Some common examples of Web content
> > technologies include HTML, CSS, SVG, PNG, PDF, Flash, and
> JavaScript.
> >
> >
> > BTW: The issue of techniques for creating Web Applications
> using DOM
> > manipulation is covered by this reading:
> > "programming languages" "executed by user agents" to create
> "dynamic
> > Web applications".
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist Adaptive
> Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto
>
> Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca
> Web: http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca
> Phone: 416-946-7060
> Fax: 416-971-2896
>
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