- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:29:50 -0500
- To: 'Jan Richards' <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>, 'Phill Jenkins' <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: 'WAI-AUWG List' <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>, 'Andi Snow-Weaver' <andisnow@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-cg@w3.org, 'Ben Caldwell' <Caldwell@trace.wisc.edu>, 'GVAN' <GV@TRACE.WISC.EDU>, 'Loretta Guarina-Reid' <Loretta@guarino.com>, "'Loretta@Google'" <Lorettaguarino@google.com>, 'Michael Cooper' <cooper@w3.org>
- Message-id: <00a501c7cff6$048f40b0$24c480de@NC84301>
Hi Jan, This is interesting (pulled your text out from below to make it easier to find - and then just - formatted it as a definition - added "Web content" in front of "technology" in the note, and - changed the order FROM rendered, executed or played TO rendered, played, or executed. Web Content Technology mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered, played or executed by user agents NOTE: Web Content technologies may include markup languages, data formats, or programming languages that authors may use alone or in combination to create end-user experiences that range from static Web pages to multimedia presentations to dynamic Web applications. EXAMPLES: Some common examples of Web content technologies include HTML, CSS, SVG, PNG, PDF, Flash, and JavaScript Thoughts? Gregg -- ------------------------------ Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-cg-request@w3.org > [mailto:w3c-wai-cg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jan Richards > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:59 AM > To: Phill Jenkins > Cc: WAI-AUWG List; Andi Snow-Weaver; w3c-wai-cg@w3.org > Subject: Re: "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" definition for ATAG2 > > > Hi Phill, > > Thanks for your comments. This is obviously a key definition > that many groups are interested in, so I don't want to give > anyone the impression that I'm trying to do this alone. My > thoughts are in-line, marked by "JR": > > Quoting Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>: > > JR: First a clarification of the term in question. By > "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" I meant "Web Content Technology". > > > I would recommend including the notion of encoded formats > or content > > types that require a plug-in. For example, many content > types require > > a "plug-in" to render the content. I suppose a plug-in is a user > > agent within a user agent that can't render the content > type itself directly. > > JR: In my proposed definition, I had intended "data format" > to include these things, but I'm open to wording that > clarifies this. In general, I think plug-ins can be assumed > to be part of the user agent. > > > I would separate your definition to distinguish or define > interactive > > content types. Such as forms and widgets that change the visual > > presentation, such as expanding or collapsing a tree view, > something > > more than just "clicking on a link" to go to another > content type page or view. > > FLASH is an example of an interactive content type while > an MP3 file > > is only "played" or rendered in audio by the player or > plug-in. You > > always interact with the user agent, but many content types include > > interaction inside the content rendered by the user agent. > > JR: Maybe the the following changes would address this > (changes in CAPS): > > "A mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered, > executed OR PLAYED by user agents. Technologies may include > markup languages, data formats, or programming languages that > authors may use alone or in combination to create end-user > experiences that range from static Web pages TO MULTIMEDIA > PRESENTATIONS to dynamic Web applications. Some common > examples of Web content technologies include HTML, CSS, SVG, > PNG, PDF, Flash, and JavaScript." > > > > I would strongly recommend NOT using the term "technology" > to replace > > content type or format. Technology, Information Technology, and > > Electronic & Information Technology (E&IT) are much higher > level terms > > that often include the user agent, the operating system, and the > > hardware to render the information. > > JR: I'm not fixed on "technology", though as my clarification > above points out, the full term is "Web content technology". > > > I would NOT include the notion of "programming languages" in the > > definition of "content", but I agree it is part of the higher level > > term of "technology", because much of the "programming > logic" can he > > hosted on the server or hidden on the client and is used to > manipulate > > the content based on user interaction and outside inputs (i.e., RSS) > > JR: I don't want to speak for the WCAG-WG here, but the WEB > CONTENT Accessibility Guidelines does cover user interfaces > generated by executing program code so I think it makes > things more clear if the term WEB CONTENT is defined to cover this. > > > I copied Andi Snow-Weaver, a member of the WCAG 2.0 working > group and > > co-chair of the 508 TEITAC Web & Software Subcommittee that is also > > dealing with definition. The definition and terms need to > harmonized > > across WCAG/ATAG as well as 508 and other standards. > > JR: Thanks. The more people thinking about this, the better > chance we have of getting it right. > > Cheers, > Jan > > > > > > Regards, > > Phill Jenkins > > IBM Research - Human Ability & Accessibility Center > > http://www.ibm.com/able > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca> Sent by: > > w3c-wai-au-request@w3.org > > 07/25/2007 02:49 PM > > > > To > > WAI-AUWG List <w3c-wai-au@w3.org> > > cc > > > > Subject > > "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" definition for ATAG2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > On Monday's call, the term "TECHNOLOGY, Web Content" was > introduced as > > a potential replacement for "Content Type" in ATAG2 and > "Technology" > > in WCAG (it came out of a meeting between Michael Cooper, > Al Gilman and I): > > > > > > TECHNOLOGY, Web Content > > > > A mechanism for encoding instructions to be rendered or executed by > > user agents. Technologies may include markup languages, > data formats, > > or programming languages that authors may use alone or in > combination > > to create end-user experiences that range from static Web pages to > > dynamic Web applications. Some common examples of Web content > > technologies include HTML, CSS, SVG, PNG, PDF, Flash, and > JavaScript. > > > > > > BTW: The issue of techniques for creating Web Applications > using DOM > > manipulation is covered by this reading: > > "programming languages" "executed by user agents" to create > "dynamic > > Web applications". > > > > > > Cheers, > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jan Richards, User Interface Design Specialist Adaptive > Technology Resource Centre (ATRC), University of Toronto > > Email: jan.richards@utoronto.ca > Web: http://jan.atrc.utoronto.ca > Phone: 416-946-7060 > Fax: 416-971-2896 > > > > > >
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