- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:45:01 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>
- cc: <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
OK, it makes more sense now. But I think a better way to approach it is to look slightly differently: If I am developer X, how many categories do I need to look at. It doesn't matter if other people are going to lok at the same techniques because they cover several categories, but it is a pain if one developer needs to look through 9 out of 11 categories, but only finds 20% of each category relevant. Given that tehre are a lot of developers working on a lot of different things in different ways, this is something I suspect we'll only manage to figure out by getting feedback from dozens of users of the document. Chaals On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Jan Richards wrote: > >Charles, > >Sorry for the confusion. I am NOT saying that a technique is less >"useful" if it applies to more than one category (in fact it's possibly >more useful). I AM trying to measure the usefulness of the >categorization scheme we have chosen. In other words, "is the >categorization scheme making divisions among the techniques that are >useful for tool developers". Here are two examples of what I mean: > >1. An efficient categorization scheme is male/female (it is ~100% >efficient in dividing people). > >2. An inefficient categorization scheme is "people who drink >water"/"people who eat bread" (it is inefficient because so many people >fall into both categories) > >If, as we have with ATAG, the efficiency of the categorization scheme is >low we may want to look at whether it is worthwhile to keep it. Of >course, my reordering proposal mentions that we might want to use a >different categorization scheme for each tier - to increase the >efficiency - but this may be too complicated. > >Cheers, >Jan > >Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >> >> I don't understand your assumption that efficiency is implied by each >> technique being useful for exactly one type of tool. Since it is such an >> important basis for the rest of your analysis, could you please explain it >> further? >> >> Cheers >> >> Charles >> >> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Jan Richards wrote: >> >> > >> >Matt, >> > >> >Thanks for providing the raw count. A quick and dirty analysis shows >> >that: >> > >> >In the worst case scenario (0% efficiency), each technique would apply >> >to every category, so the categories mean nothing: >> > >> > # of icons = # of techniques * # of categories >> > >> >In the best case scenario (100% efficiency), each technique would belong >> >to only one category, so: >> > >> > # of icons = # of techniques >> > >> >So, for the whole document: >> > >> >> Markup Editing Tools: 96 >> >> Multimedia Creation Tools: 75 >> >> Content Management Tools: 78 >> >> Programming Tools: 55 >> >> Conversion Tools: 6 >> > >> ># of Techniques: 106 >> >BEST CASE = 106 Icons >> >WORST CASE = 530 Icons >> >ACTUAL = 310 Icons (~52% efficiency) >> >*EFFICIENCY = 100% - (ACTUAL - BEST CASE)/(WORST CASE - BEST CASE) >> > >> >But some guidelines are more efficient than others: >> > >> >> G6: >> >> Markup Editing Tools: 12 >> >> Multimedia Creation Tools: 12 >> >> Content Management Tools: 12 >> >> Programming Tools: 12 >> >> Conversion Tools: 0 >> >> None specified: 2 >> > >> ># of Techniques: 12 >> >BEST CASE = 12 Icons >> >WORST CASE = 60 Icons >> >ACTUAL = 48 Icons (~25% efficiency) >> > >> >> G7: >> >> Markup Editing Tools: 23 >> >> Multimedia Creation Tools: 12 >> >> Content Management Tools: 10 >> >> Programming Tools: 7 >> >> Conversion Tools: 0 >> >> None specified: 1 >> > >> ># of Techniques: 28 >> >BEST CASE = 28 Icons >> >WORST CASE = 140 Icons >> >ACTUAL = 52 Icons (~79% efficiency) >> > >> >Unfortunately much of our efficiency is provided by the fact that the >> >Conversion Tool category is used just 6 times. Leaving out this >> >category, the efficiency scores are: >> > >> >All techniques: 38% >> >G6: 0% (all techniques apply to all 4 categories) >> >G7: 71% >> > >> >-- >> >Cheers, >> >Jan >> > >> >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >> > >> >Jan Richards >> > >> >User Interface Design Specialist >> >Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC) >> >University of Toronto >> > >> >@: jan.richards@utoronto.ca >> >P: (416) 946-7060 >> >F: (416) 971-2896 >> > >> >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >> > >> >> -- >> Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 >> W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 >> Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia >> (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France) > > >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > >Jan Richards > >User Interface Design Specialist >Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC) >University of Toronto > >@: jan.richards@utoronto.ca >P: (416) 946-7060 >F: (416) 971-2896 > >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > -- Charles McCathieNevile http://www.w3.org/People/Charles phone: +61 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI fax: +33 4 92 38 78 22 Location: 21 Mitchell street FOOTSCRAY Vic 3011, Australia (or W3C INRIA, Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France)
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