- From: B.K. DeLong <bkdelong@pobox.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:39:00 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
- Cc: webwatch@yahoogroups.com
At 09:59 AM 01/29/2002 -0500, Al Gilman wrote: >Yes, but why is it that designers have to be repeatedly told [this]? I apologize for the intrusion, but I'm going to jump in here. Due to the lack of "curriculums" and articles where Web accessibility is taught as part of the Web design process rather than an afterthought to be revisited after site completion, many Web designers don't quite grasp the concept of usability with regard to their sites. >It is a megatrend and the bane of my existence. I agree and we can stamp our feet and complain about them all we want. The real issue is that many Web designers still see HTML as a Web design language. Until they realize that a) It's a markup language and b) Markup languages are meant only to give context to information while CSS is supposed to handle all the formatting, it's going to be an uphill battle - Web accessibility will continue to be something they half-heartedly address after they feel the site is finished. <rant pertinence="offtopic"> We need to see more articles looking at solutions that allow people to create sites using (X)HTML + CSS. It wasn't until I started redoing my own personal site that I realized, (after having it pointed out by CSS guru Eric Costello[1]), I could create the Web site without having to use JavaScript browser sniffing to assign appropriate stylesheets based on user agent. Most browsers supporting a decent (ie usable) amount of CSS also support the @import at-rule. While others that have poor CSS support (ie Netscape 4.x) do not. As such, create a main stylesheet that all browsers will support and import it via the LINK element, and create a second stylesheet that adds extra special CSS not supported by all browsers, and bring it in via the @import. Mind you it's still a work-in-progress but so far the site [2] seems to do well in Lynx, Netscape 4.6, IE6, Opera 4.0b3, and Netscape 6. Mozilla seems to ignore both stylesheets so I don't know what's up with that - I'll have to hit Bugzilla. Anyway, THIS sort of education will help designers further realize the dichotomy between markup and style that I think they're still not getting. </rant> >They are following a context-free rule that only takes linear thinking. Here >is an IMG, supply an ALT. All they did was to follow that rule without >looking >around. They ignore the context. Now that, I just don't understand. Perhaps it's because many designers are visually oriented and they treat ALT attributes a property of their graphic or link rather than take in the context of how it will read in the document. But again, that can be solved by better education. >For effective education and outreach, to get the design constraint we wish to >be effective in the designer's understanding we have to put the form of the >fluency constraint graphically under their nose. This can be done with >Lynx or >Home Page Reader or you name it. But the authoring process has to present the >author with the text content in a geometry which makes the repetition obvious, >and makes it look like a mistake. Sounds like we should encourage authoring tool companies to place a new feature in their product: Have a toggle that switches from WYSIWYG view to text view - a view that is the result of replacing graphical elements with their text equivalent, or nothing to show what it looks like in text browsers and how it will read to people with screen readers, people browsing with Cell phones, PDAs (for when they support XHTML + CSS2). Long term, we need to make more of a point to read books, articles, listserves etc and start commenting to authors and developers who approach things from a wrong angle. Every book I've tech edited over the past year, I've tried to pound the (X)HTML + CSS, Markup vs. Style point home so we can start changing the perception of the Web site design process. [1] http://www.glish.com/ [2] http://www.brain-stream.com/2002/newsite -- B.K. DeLong bkdelong@pobox.com 617.877.3271 http://www.brain-stream.com Play. http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org Potter. http://www.attrition.org Security. http://www.artemisiabotanicals.com Herb.
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