- From: Wendy A Chisholm <wendy@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:07:51 -0400
- To: Jan Richards <jan.richards@utoronto.ca>, "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Great subject line. :) I don't have any answers, but glad you are asking these questions. Another thing to take into consideration is the work on WCAG 2.0. [1] WCAG 2.0 has "success criteria" for each checkpoint - these are supposed to be testable. The Techniques documents will have more testable criteria that look more like the AERT. [2] Therefore, if WCAG provides what should be produced, ATAG should provide how to help the author get it there....not a new idea....just restating it FYI. This follows along what we discussed last June in Amsterdam [3]. --wendy [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/ [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/wcagtech020320.html [3] 3:30 - 5:00 Techniques break-out sessions: HTML and Graphics/Multimedia http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2001/06/21-f2f-minutes.html At 05:20 PM 5/28/02, Jan Richards wrote: >Hi all, > >It seems that the ATAG evaluation techniques are always on the agenda, >but for some reason, we never quite get to them. As we put together an >agenda for the Austria F2F, perhaps we should return to the subject and >survey the numerous outstanding issues (which I will be placing in an >issues page - linked from a new Evaluation Techniques sub-section on the >AU homepage). > >As I see it, we need to come to a consensus on the following: > >1. Do we want the evaluation techniques to be a step-by-step procedure >for people who are not familiar with ATAG? (i.e. "Open the file supplied >and then perform X. If you see Y happen then the tool passes, if Z then >it fails.") Or will the evaluation techniques be intended to support >evaluations by people familiar with ATAG (i.e. "Here are some things to >keep in mind when assessing X in the tool")? - Either way, how can we >avoid specifying things at the level of markup (which is best left to >WCAG's whenever possible)? In other words, will we have to have a >different set of tests for HTML, SVG? > >2. How will we take into account all the different kinds of tools? Will >we break the evaluation techniques into groups by ATAG checkpoint? Will >we end up with something like the AERT but with different tool types >rather than different markup languages.? > >3. What will be the relationship be between the evaluation techniques >and the implementation techniques? If we include implementation >specifics in the tests (i.e. "To assess whether highlighting has been >used in the dialog check whether any options are highlighted by ordering >or color.") how will we avoid this being seen as limiting the creative >flexibility of developers and becoming the de facto prescriptive >requirements? > >4. How can we support evaluation of checkpoints dealing with accessible >output (for WCAG P1, P2 and P3) when checking tools are not up to the >task yet? How much testing of output is sufficient? > >5. How can we support checking of the accessibility interface >checkpoints in guideline 7? Will we provide pointers to platform >specific standards, "rules of thumb" for checking interfaces, etc. > >6. How should we use the QA work >(http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-qaframe-spec-20020515/) > > >Answers? More questions? Comments? > >-- >Cheers, >Jan > >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > >Jan Richards >UI Design Specialist >Adaptive Technology Resource Centre (ATRC) >University of Toronto > >jan.richards@utoronto.ca >Phone: (416) 946-7060 >Fax: (416) 971-2896 > >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ -- wendy a chisholm world wide web consortium web accessibility initiative seattle, wa usa /--
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