- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:00:16 -0400
- To: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Cc: Authoring Tools Guidelines List <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
aloha, charles! could you please consult with ian as to how he has tweaked his scripts (or manually inserted) long descriptions of the screen shots into the plain text version of the UAAG techniques document so that you might do the same for ATAG? simply including only the ALT text defined for the screen shot (in some cases, accompanied by a trailing "D", which obviously, in the HTML version points to the long description, is: (a) manifestly insufficient; (b) highly inconsistent with WAI/W3C policy (c) an outright insult to those who don't have the damn pictures at their disposal or for whom graphics are worthless our guidelines should adhere to WCAG at the Triple-A conformance level, period. anything else is insufficient and a betrayal of those in whose name we labor as the Web Accessibility Initiative -- if every permutation of our guidelines isn't as accessible as possible, what sort of precedent are we setting? what sort of message are we sending? do as we say, but not necessarily as we do? there are several excellent long descriptions extant -- they simply need to be rolled into the plain text version of the document, consistently and without exception... i have been singing this tune for quite some time in the WAI, and have frequently expressed my concerns about lack of descriptive text to the editors of other W3C documents when they have asked PF to review them -- if the work of the WAI is to permeate the W3C and web culture as a whole, we must lead the way... case in point--at WWW9, the program, list of speakers, papers, & proceedings were available in hypertext on a CD-ROM, the index.html page of which was a FRAMESET which, while it did contain a NOFRAMES element, misused that markup to inform the user that he or she needed a frames-capable browser to peruse the contents of the CD-ROM.... if the organizers of the WWW conferences can't produce accessible media, what exactly have we accomplished over the past 3 years? charles, this isn't a personal attack on you (i know you know that), nor an attack on ATAG -- it is an expression of frustration with the second-class treatment that the plain text versions of documents are accorded, and i am seriously concerned that by failing to comply to WCAG at the highest possible level -- such as the failure to provide an alternative equivalent to the screen shots -- we are simply providing fodder to the rather nasty backlash which has been festering in the grass-roots, as individuals wait for our work to make an actual difference in their daily and professional lives... signed, gregory (who is still mostly offline, but who did hear of a new techniques draft and got someone to download a copy of the zipped HTML version and the plain text version, which -- due to my systems' instabilities -- is far easier for me to process than the HTML version...) At 01:34 PM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote: >I have put a new techniques draft in place at >http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/WD-ATAG10-TECHS-20000918/ for your perusal, >enjoyment, and review. There are some techniques added and I have put a note >in the status and "how the techniques are organised section" linking the >evaluation document - that would be a good thing to get some review on too. > >Another thing to look at is what parts of the techniques need work and would >make good work items for then face to face meeting in Bristol. Reminder - >please register... > >We should publish a new Public Techniques draft soon with at least an initial >version of the evaluation stuff - it's a W3C process requirement to publish >regularly, and it is supposed to be on the TR page (which means review by the >Interest group first). > >cheers > >Charles >-- >Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 >W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI >Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia >September - November 2000: >W3C INRIA, 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP 93, 06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, >France
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