- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:58:35 -0500
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
- CC: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>, Authoring Tools Guidelines List <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
"Gregory J. Rosmaita" wrote: > > aloha, charles! > > thanks for your expeditious reply... > > i do have one question on the 18 december draft... the text for Checkpoint 4.1 > reads: > > quote > 4.1 Check for and inform the author of accessibility problems. > [Relative Priority] > Note: Accessibility problems should be detected automatically > where possible. Where this is not possible, the tool may need > to prompt the user to make decisions, or to manually check for > certain types of problem. > unquote > > i still fail to "see" why we switched from "alert" to "inform" -- we have a > very strong definition of alert in the techniques document, 1) It was decided in the 15 December teleconf [1]. 2) People felt that "alert" in general meant something different from "alert" as defined in the document. 3) "Inform" was chosen as an umbrella for alerts, prompts, etc. - Ian [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/telecon-15dec99 > which, if ported to > ATAG itself, would have removed any potential confusion that we were directing > developers to use a platform specific mechanism which also happens to be called > an alert... > > so, i propose keeping the word alert in checkpoint 4.1, porting the techniques > document's definition of the term alert to ATAG, and hyperlinking the word > alert to the expanded definition... > > and, while i realize that, if we are to reconsider the ramifications of every > noun, adverb, adjective, and verb used in the document to ensure that none of > them conflict with their use in a platform-specific setting, that ATAG will > never be finalized, i do believe that this particular checkpoint needs to > convey the full gamut of functionalities captured in the Techniques document's > definition of accessibility... > > gregory > > At 10:59 AM 12/22/99 -0500, you wrote: > >The draft has not been successfully mounted to W3C space. It will be > >announced as soon as I get it there. In fact I believe there are only minor > >editorial differences (cleaning up the use of user / author and so on, and > >shifting the sentence about existing tools that do some things around) > > > >So people sould sign off on the current draat if they are not concerned > >about > >editorial stuff (for the record, I am signing off on it) or "watch this > >space" otherwise. > > > >In the absence o any comments, there seems to be little point in holding a > >teleconference this afternoon. > > > >Charles > > > > > >On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote: > > > > aloha, jutta! > > > > although, on 20 december, you wrote: > > > > quote > > Due to network problems Charles was experiencing, a number of edits did not > > make it into the draft. As a result the draft to sign off on will be posted > > tomorrow and the deadline for signing off will be Wednesday at the end of > > the day. > > unquote > > > > the list never received confirmation that the corrected draft had been > > successfully mounted in W3C space... is the draft which is located at: > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/PR-WAI-AUTOOLS-19991218/ > > the current draft? is it the draft that will form the basis of our > >discussion > > later today? there isn't an agenda posted to confirm whether or not this is > > the corrected draft... > > > > gregory > > > > > > At 10:46 AM 12/20/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >Due to network problems Charles was experiencing, a number of edits did not > > >make it into the draft. As a result the draft to sign off on will be posted > > >tomorrow and the deadline for signing off will be Wednesday at the end of > > >the day. > > > > > >Jutta > > > > > >At 5:24 PM -0500 12/18/99, Ian Jacobs wrote: > > >>Hello, > > >> > > >>I have published the 18 December version of the ATAG Guidelines [1] > > >>and Techniques Document [2]. In addition to changes made > > >>by Charles (which I will let him document), I made the following > > >>changes: > > >> > > >>1) Incorporated changes from 15 Dec atag teleconf > > >> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/telecon-15dec99 > > >> > > >>2) Incorporated editorial changes from Ian's propsals of 12 December > > >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/1999OctDec/0295.html > > >> > > >>3) Deleted the term "impairment" and replaced with "disability" > > >> (one occurrence). Based on 14 December CG decision to not use > > >>"impairment" > > >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-cg/1999OctDec/0053.html > > >> > > >>4) Deleted the term "alt-text" and replace with "text-equivalent" > > >> (notably in the section on A-prompt). > > >> > > >>5) Changed "fulfill a checkpoint" to "satisfy a checkpoint" > > >> (for unity with other guidelines). > > >> > > >>6) Added the following links: > > >> a) Techniques now back link to the Guidelines (via the checkpoint > > >>number) > > >> Linking is to the latest version of the guidelines. > > >> b) Samples (e.g., Amaya) now back link to the Techniques (via > > >> the checkpoint number) > > >> > > >>7) I made some changes to the document processing machinery to > > >> align ATAG and UAAG (and ultimately WCAG). Readers should notice > > >> absolutely no different. But if you remark anything strange, > > >> please let the editors know. > > >> > > >>Thank you, > > >> > > >> - Ian > > >> > > >>[1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/PR-WAI-AUTOOLS-19991218/ > > >>[2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/WD-WAI-AUTOOLS-TECHS-19991218 > > >>-- > > >>Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs > > >>Tel/Fax: +1 212 684-1814 > > >>Cell: +1 917 450-8783 > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > He that lives on Hope, dies farting > > -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763 > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> > > WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC > > <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >-- > >Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 409 134 136 > >W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI > >21 Mitchell Street, Footscray, VIC 3011, Australia (I've moved!) > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > He that lives on Hope, dies farting > -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763 > -------------------------------------------------------- > Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> > WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC > <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> > -------------------------------------------------------- -- Ian Jacobs (jacobs@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs Tel/Fax: +1 212 684-1814 Cell: +1 917 450-8783
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