- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:27:20 -0500 (EST)
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
- cc: Authoring Tools Guidelines List <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
I do not feel that having a conformance level available which allows a tool
to get some kind of endorsement without meeting our aims is automaticaly a
violation of our charter.
However I think Gregory has raised an important point or two. The first is
that in his opinion, a tool that excludes a number of users is doing harm,
and should not be declared worthy of some kind of endorsement. Although I
agree with the conclusion, I think it reflects a larger point, which is that
there is not, (and is unliekly in my opinion to be) agreement in the working
group on what is the single most important checkpoint - the answer always
depends on who is asking the question, and in what context. For some people,
a text editor such as emacs provides all they need to author HTML
successfully, and their only requirement is that it be accessible itself. For
others they don't really care if a tool is accessible, but they need to know
what is required to make accessible pages, and help is the most important
thing, since thay can repair anything a tool does, or rewrite it in the case
of a programmable tool (this is what I did for over a year. For others again,
the important thing is that the tool doesn't destroy their markup.
I don't think there is any way we can stop (or any reason we would try to
stop) people saying they meet some portion of P1 checkpoints and some portion
of P2 checkpoints even if they do not meet a particular level. I think that
is valuable information for consumers who are looking to match a tool to
their needs, and it is therefore in our interests that it is possible to deal
with such partial solutions in the absence of a good solution.
I don't think hte propoosed solution will solve any problems, and I think it
will sdetrack the group into dealing with questions of implementation plans
that are more properly handled by the developers of an individual tool.
So I agree with Gregory that we should not make this proposed change, and as
I understand it that was the opinion expressed generally in the meeting where
we discussed it last week. However I think the proposed answer addresses one
aspect of the reasoning by which we rejected it at the expense of more
generalised reasoning which I think we should have in our final response.
cheers
Charles McCN
On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote:
Draft Response To "Do No Harm" Member Request for An
Additional Conformance Level That Would Address ONLY
The Accessibility of the Content Created by the Tool
NOTE: This response is a work-in-progress and does not
reflect a consensus on the part of the Authoring Tools
Working Group.
This response is divided into 6 parts:
Part 1: Introduction
Part 2: Response
Part 3: Conclusion
Part 4: References
Part 5: Drafter's End Note
Part 6: Appendix: Member A's Comments in Full
INTRODUCTION
The Authoring Tools Working Group (AUWG) has been asked by a
W3C Member Organization to consider adding a conformance
level lower than Single-A, which would signify that the
product "does no harm" [reference 1]
RESPONSE
It is the decision of the AUWG to reject this proposal for
the following reasons:
1. The AUWG's charter [reference 2] expressly states that
the "mission" of the Working Group is to:
* provide author support for creating accessible Web
documents;
* ensure an accessible user interface for authors with
disabilities.
A conformance level that addresses only the output of an
authoring tool, and ignores the accessibility of the tool
itself, would, therefore, violate the AUWG's charter.
Furthermore, it is the consensus of the AUWG that this
request has been made in the improper forum. The proper
forum in which the member organization should have raised
this issue was the AUWG's charter review, and not during
Proposed Recommendation.
2. The AUWG has consistently, and repeatedly, reiterated its
commitment to the fulfillment of the goals outlined in the
ATAG's Abstract:
This specification provides guidelines for Web
authoring tool developers. Its purpose is two-fold: to
assist developers in designing authoring tools that
generate accessible Web content and to assist developers
in creating an accessible authoring interface.
Authoring tool users ("authors") can be enabled,
encouraged and assisted to create accessible Web content
through prompts, alerts, checking and repair functions,
help files and automated tools. It is equally important
that all people can be the authors of Web content,
rather than merely recipients. The tools used to create
this information must therefore be accessible themselves.
Adoption of these guidelines will contribute to the
proliferation of Web content that can be read by a
broader range of readers and in authoring tools that can
be used by a broader range of authors. [reference 3]
And in the ATAG's Introduction:
The guidelines in this specification are designed to
help authoring tool developers design authoring tools
that can be used by people regardless of disability, and
that produce accessible Web content. [reference 4]
As the above excerpts eloquently illustrate, it is the
consensus of the AUWG that the web must not be reduced to
a read-only experience for users with disabilities. The
provision of a lowered conformance level, which addresses
only the accessibility of the output generated by the
tool, would, therefore, undermine the integrity and
import of the Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines,
and is unacceptable to the AUWG. It is not sufficient
that users with disabilities merely be recipients of
accessible content--they, too, must be given the ability
to make their individual and collective voices heard.
CONCLUSION
Therefore, it is the consensus of the AUWG that one
cannot possibly "do no harm" without addressing the
accessibility of the tool itself. Failure to do so would
not only violate the Working Group's charter, but -- more
significantly -- exclude a significant minority of users
from expressing themselves online in an independent
manner.
References
1. http://www.w3.org/1999/11/AU-review-comments.html#Developer1
2. http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/charter
3. http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/PR-WAI-AUTOOLS-19991026/#Abstract
4. http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/PR-WAI-AUTOOLS-19991026/#Introduction
Drafter's End Note: I chose to delete my reference to:
an even greater number of users who, as quote
situationally disabled unquote users, would
benefit from the application of ATAG.
as I felt it was slightly off-target, although given the
target audience for this response, it might be appropriate.
Appendix: MEMBER A's COMMENTS IN THEIR ENTIRETY
We encourage the working group to focus on producing
guidelines and/or techniques that will be more immediately
intelligible and usable for practicing programmers, even at
the expense of potentially creating difficulties within the
W3C process.
Particular areas of concern that have been identified are:
1. lack of clarity about what the guidelines expect to be
done by the tool, versus what they expect to be done by the
user of the tool; [CMN notes there has been discussion in a
Member-only mailing list suggesting that the working group
should formally identify which WCAG checkpoints must be
dealt with by the tool and which can be ignored]
2. lack of clarity about the expected level of
sophistication of the user of the tool; and
3. a document structure that allows considerable confusion
about how many checkpoints there are.
We suggest that the working group consider the possibility
of a lower conformance level, indicating effectively that
the product "does no harm" -- that it may not yet reach A
level for supporting accessibility, but neither does it
impair or interfere with efforts to provide accessibility.
Such a conformance level could do a lot to help eliminate
the problem of tools that do interfere with accessible
markup.
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-- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763
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Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC
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