- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>
- cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
In a system which doesn't allow for accessibility it is not possible to make the tool accessible. However such a system is hard to imagine - it would need to lack an API of any useful kind and not have any facility for input or output that could not be re-assigned or emulated by another device. A developer making a tool for such a system, which could not be used on any other system, would probably have a fair argument that it was unreasonable to expect them to make the tool accessible according to the guidelines, and they should be allowed to do something else. We require that developers conform to various accessibility guidelines, and argue that it is not necessary for us to say anything more. For this to be true, those guidelines must explain what the necessary features are - the ability to control the various functions of the tool, using API or hardware interfaces other than the normal User Interface, for example. Given that a simple serial interface and a bit of programming has allowed computers to be accessible for a long time (including kiosks incorporating an interface for assistive hardware), if there is an operating system which has been written in such a way as to preclude these functions, we need to say more about how to design a tool to make it accessible, like "do not use environment X". I doubt that this is in fact the case, and would be surprised if any vendor is currently working on software for a system which makes accessibility impossible, even if it has not been implemented. GNOME, for example, has a speech output system which is not completely implemented. But it is certainly possible to build an accessible tool for GNOME and ensure that it has the necessary APIs etc to make it accessible when such a tool is available. I am not sufficiently familiar with WindowsCE to know the situation in that OS. Charles On Sat, 8 May 1999, Kynn Bartlett wrote: [Ooops. Meant this to go here.] My Windows CE Palmsize PC computer has an HTML editor on it (as well as several browsers). Given that there are not (to the best my understanding) screen reader packages for Windows CE, what is the obligation of the editor (or the browsers) to be accessible given that the operating system is not? :) [I assume the answer is: "the point is moot since there don't seem to be disabled people using Windows CE, or if they are, they are not prevented from using the system."] Just a tongue-in-cheek, stayed-up-too-late thought. (On the other hand, while my HTML editor may not have to support blind users, it _should_ produce accessible HTML, so how do we know which of the AU guidelines apply and which do not, or will we simply assume that since it can't be used accessibly, it isn't required to make accessible HTML? I can't tell if I'm asking stupid questions or if I've identified a problem in our current approach. I.e., I can't go to bSQUARE and say "here, follow these guidelines to make your tool accessible" because they _can't_ make the tool usable by, say, Gregory.) -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com> http://www.kynn.com/ Chief Technologist, Idyll Mountain Internet http://www.idyllmtn.com/ Become AWARE of Web Accessibility! http://aware.hwg.org/ Dan Shafer likes AWARE, so will you! http://www.kynn.com/+shafer Next Trip: Toronto, Canada (13 May-17 May) http://www8.org/ -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@hwg.org> President, Governing Board Member HTML Writers Guild <URL:http://www.hwg.org> Director, Accessible Web Authoring Resources and Education Center <URL:http://aware.hwg.org/> --Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +1 617 258 0992 http://www.w3.org/People/Charles W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI MIT/LCS - 545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139, USA
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