- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:56:05 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus <Bruce_Roberts/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com>
- cc: w3c-wai-au@w3.org
I suggest a small clarification to Jutta's wording. Instead of
"authors will create web content using the tool that does not conform to the
guidelines"
I suggest that we say
This checkpoint must be implemented by authoring tools, otherwise one or
more groups of authors with disabilities will find it impossible to
access some function of the tool, or authors using the tool will not be
able to create web content that is accessible. Satisfying this checkpoint
is a basic requirement for some individuals to be able to use the
authoring tool or its output.
This checkpoint should be implemented by authoring tools, otherwise one
or more groups of authors with disabilities will face significant
barriers to access some function of the tool, or authors using the tool
will find it difficult to create web content that is accessible.
Satisfying this checkpoint will remove significant barriers for some
individuals to be able to use the authoring tool or its output.
This checkpoint may be implemented by authoring tools, to make it easier
for one or more groups of authors with disabilities to access some
function of the tool, or authors using the tool will find it easier to
create web content that is accessible. Satisfying this checkpoint will
improve access for some individuals to the authoring tool or its output.
This removes a potential ambiguity about whether it is the tool or the
content produced which is accessible. It also talks about accessibility,
which is the functional requirement, rather than conformance to the WCAG,
which is the way to do it.
so that's my proposal...
Charles
On Mon, 3 May 1999, Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus wrote:
Sorry I took so long to respond. I jotted down the original e-mail just as
I was leaving town and I've just got back to my e-mail.
I like Jutta's wording. I have no problem with leaving the phrase "users
with disabilities" in. In fact, I would argue it's necessary. Otherwise
one could say that if the tool can't be localized then, technically, it
can't be accessed by some group of users which would fail priority one.
And I don't think that's what we want P1 to mean, right?
-- Bruce
Jutta Treviranus <jutta.treviranus@utoronto.ca> on 04/27/99 11:20:46 AM
To: Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus <Bruce_Roberts/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com>,
w3c-wai-au@w3.org
cc:
Subject: Re: Weighing in on priority definitions
Rather than having two sets of priorities, the phrases relating to section
2 could be reworded to address the concerns expressed in last week's
teleconference:
Priority one presently reads:
This checkpoint must be implemented by authoring tools, otherwise one or
more groups of users with disabilities will find it impossible to access
some function of the tool, or some content produced by it. Satisfying this
checkpoint is a basic requirement for some individuals to be able to use
the authoring tool or its output.
This could be changed to:
This checkpoint must be implemented by authoring tools, otherwise one or
more groups of authors with disabilities will find it impossible to access
some function of the tool, or authors will create web content using the
tool that does not conform to the Web Content Guidelines. Satisfying this
checkpoint is a basic requirement for some individuals to be able to use
the authoring tool or its output.
The gradation could be "does not", "unlikely to" and "may not."
Thus we are not simply replicating the Web Content Guidelines which has
already prescribed what content is completely inaccessible etc, but we
would be using priority definitions that relate to what our guidelines are
trying to do: create tools that persuade or compell authors to create
accessible content. The gradation should reflect how well that task is
accomplished.
Bruce could you respond to the list before the conference call since we
will be discussing this issue and would value your input.
Jutta
At 1:00 PM +0000 4/28/99, Bruce Roberts/CAM/Lotus wrote:
>I won't be able to phone in for today's teleconference but wanted to give
>my opinion on priority redefinitions. I feel strongly that the
definitions
>should stay close to the way they are. The current wording will make it
>much easier for software developers to produce conforming tools and markup
>because:
>
>1) The wording is similar to the wording in other AI documents, in
>particular User Agent and Web Content accessibility guidelines. This
makes
>it easier to gain a consistent sense in and across the development
>community for what compliance means. This also argues for keeping one set
>of guidelines for all sections of the document.\
>2) The wording is tight enough that checking comformance is possible. I
>believe that alternatives proposed to this point make this checking more
>difficult.
>
>
>-- Bruce
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