- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:23:14 -0400 (EDT)
- To: thatch@us.ibm.com
- cc: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com>, love26@gorge.net, "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
I'm with Jim on this. It is also possible in most browsers to find out whether there are images there (in lynx press * or there is a stratup option) - if I want to know whether there are images I check explicitly. charles mccn On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 thatch@us.ibm.com wrote: Re: "I'd almost rather see [IMAGE] displayed than see " "" It is easy to visually ignore [IMAGE]. It is impossible to ignore it when you are listening to the page. Jim Thatcher IBM Special Needs Systems www.ibm.com/sns thatch@us.ibm.com (512)838-0432 Kynn Bartlett <kynn-hwg@idyllmtn.com> on 04/08/99 11:13:27 AM To: love26@gorge.net cc: "w3c-wai-au@w3.org" <w3c-wai-au@w3.org> (bcc: James Thatcher/Austin/IBM) Subject: Re: null alt revisited At 08:57 a.m. 04/08/99 -0700, William Loughborough wrote: >A friend writes "I think alt=" " would be effective in forcing the >webauthor to do SOMETHING but I also think we should be hounding browser >vendors to break any page on which NOTHING was done with it". As a user of lynx and an Opera user who has 'image loading off' by default, I'd almost rather see [IMAGE] displayed than see " " (whitespace), in the case of a broken web page. (Broken meaning something that doesn't have correct ALT text. Naturally, I far prefer correct ALT text to anything else.) Why? Because then at least I know there's something there! In the above scenario, the designer would be just as negligent BUT I'd have no clue that they'd done that, since it might not even show me any indication of an image at all. I'm not saying that lack of ALT is acceptable, I'm just showing why a _default_ of ALT=" " is just as bad. -- Kynn Bartlett <kynn@hwg.org> President, Governing Board Member HTML Writers Guild <URL:http://www.hwg.org> --Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +1 617 258 0992 http://www.w3.org/People/Charles W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI MIT/LCS - 545 Technology sq., Cambridge MA, 02139, USA
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