- From: Terry Allen <tallen@sonic.net>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:50:13 -0700
- To: tbray@textuality.com, w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org
[Tim is getting an extra copy of this because I haven't yet seen the results of the vote on list behavior.] Tim Bray wrote: | At 02:07 PM 19/06/97 -0400, B. Tommie Usdin wrote: | >It seems to me that is really a political question, or perhaps a | >theological one. | | Except for this sentence, I agree with the rest of Tommie's posting. | I want to lose PE's and am willing to accept that for people who need | to live in a complex-DTD world, they'll probably have to use Full SGML. Ah, so XML is not only something that obdurate B.S.'s can code parsers for in a week, it's something that's fundamentally unscaleable. Now I understand. | But Eve is correct, I think, in saying that namegroups in declarations | do replace one or two common PE usages. Not in functionality or utility. | My willingness to make the the trade-off is because despite really a lot | of work by myself and (even more) Michael, the PE section of the XML-lang | spec is blatantly hideous compared to the rest of it. It is hard to So rewrite it. These are macros, right? CS grads understand macros, right? | explain, hard to understand, and hard to implement. It needs a supporting | section in an appendix to try to "explain" it (always a bad sign). It is a | psychological barrier to the acceptance of descriptive markup. ? There are no p.e.s in an instance except as marked section keywords (if still allowed there). We're not talking about markup but the specification of markup. | Partly because this because the current PE reference replacement rules | are arguably B.A.D. (broken as designed) - Michael and I came up, I think, | with a significant innovation in specification tactics in the use | of the %-operator, and the result is still very very complicated. I find the "%-operator" almost prevents me from reading the BNF. Your argument here is that you can't explain a perfectly clear concept clearly, so you want to drop it. This is not a suitable argument to make to the WG whose time you are uptaking. Regards, Terry Allen Electronic Publishing Consultant tallen[at]sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~tallen/ Davenport and DocBook: http://www.ora.com/davenport/index.html T.A. at Passage Systems: terry.allen[at]passage.com
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