- From: Len Bullard <cbullard@hiwaay.net>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:25:12 -0600
- To: "David G. Durand" <dgd@cs.bu.edu>
- CC: w3c-sgml-wg@www10.w3.org
David G. Durand wrote: > > >Yep. Now, what is the short sweet clear language that tells > >the executive why he must require his programmers or IS specialists > >to switch to this when what they have looks a lot like this > >and is working? What do we say when he says, "But my browser > >vendor says this is 'stupid', slows down the system, and they > >will never support it"? How do we convince him that it is > >worth the extra money and considerable risk to move off of > >working platforms onto other platforms just to get closed > >tags, obscure syntax, and fatter files? > > I think we don't have to. See below. That's good. It is also exactly what I was told when I first showed the HTML\WWW design to HyTime folks. > >Not kidding. That example above goes to the heart of what XML does and > >can bring to the party, and the mood of the host. > You are certainly right about the mood, but there is also a lot of > frustration with fixed tag sets, and there is fortunately alternative markup > that is nicer and easier to explain: > > <P>Your IP address is <SERVER>write(request.ip)</SERVER> > <SERVER>write("<p>Last time your were " + client.oldname + ".")</SERVER> Ok. Two solutions. They aren't frustrated. They are extending them as fast as they can based on the technology they have established and the market base they have. > Sorry I missed the syntax error the first time I read it... I agree that > this is a bit inconvenient, but I think people will be willing to put up > with this to avoid entrapment in the straightjacket of HTML. They aren't in a straitjacket. They are putting others in a straitjacket. That's the point. > All you need to say is that < is a delimiter and needs escaping whenever it > does not start a tag. It will be fun to watch someone explain to an executive with a masters in business and a company to run what "escaping a delimiter means". He needs a reason before he bets the farm on a technology harder to use and more expensive than the one we ask him to "escape". > I don't know why (or if) Eliot prefers CDATA. It was the first thing that occurred to me too. Anyway, if this is to be carried to CTS, time to do it. I was hoping to post a few counter examples here first for comment before setting off too many firestorms over there. On the other hand, maybe it is better to light a fire where light is wanted. len
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