- From: Dave Peterson <davep@acm.org>
- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:32:30 -0500
- To: Kurt Conrad <conrad@SagebrushGroup.com>, "w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org" <w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org>
At 5:06 PM 2/11/97, Kurt Conrad wrote: >I lean towards giving the public identifier precedence. > >The knee-jerk argument is "why bother" with public identifiers if the system >IDs take precedence. If I can't rely on the catalogs that I create, why >should I invest the effort to maintain them. This would be especially true >in an organizational setting, where such catalogs are increasingly likely to >be managed as shared resources to improve consistency across a collection of >documents. If as a publisher, I don't want the 'standard' component, I should >not code a reference to it. The original intent with SGML, as Goldfarb has explained it more than once, was that the system identifier is king; if it's not present, then the system is to try and impute one with whatever information (like a public identifier) it does have. If I understood correctly, the scenario he envisioned was that one would rarely use both, and if both were present it was because for some reason someone wanted to (presumably temporarily) override the standard system mechanism for resolving the public identifier. SGML's primary original purpose was to be a common interchange format, not only between systems sharing the same storage resources but between disparate systems with wildly different storage resources and organization formats thereof. And a system identifier on one system is not typically of much use on another. Under Goldfarb's scenario, if you're sending a document "off-site", you have a moral obligation to strip out your local system identifiers so as to avoid confusing the entity manager on the receiving system. (But many don't, so the receiver has to.) Point 1. "System identifier" is prime is not just a knee-jerk, lazy reaction. Point 2. The intended XML situation is complicated by the fact that "disparate" systems may be sharing storage systems via the web. From our point of view, a system identifier that is not a URL *should* have been stripped. (Will all who put XML on the web be so considerate?) But if the system identifier *is* a URL, should we have the capability to override it? I think so, and that's why I think the "original scenario" as described above is not the way to go. I think one should be able to override locally, and so, I favor: o If both identifiers are present, try to resolve the public identifier using the local system (catalog, whatever). o If bot are present but the public identifier has no resolution on the local system, then try the system identifier. Dave Peterson SGMLWorks! davep@acm.org
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