- From: Michael Sperberg-McQueen <U35395@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
- Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:34:02 CST
- To: W3C SGML Working Group <w3c-sgml-wg@w3.org>
The ERB met this morning, 30 October 1996. Present: Bosak, Bray, Clark, DeRose, Hollander, Kimber, Maler, Paoli, Sharpe, Sperberg-McQueen. Absent: Magliery. The rationale given has not been checked by the ERB and is subject to correction and supplementation. B.10 What form should EMPTY elements take, if there are EMPTY elements in XML: <e>, <e/>, <e></e>, or <@e> (where the NET string is assumed to be '/>' and '@' is assumed to be an XML-specific flag for names of EMPTY elements; in SGML systems, '@' to be added to the set of name-start characters). Agreed unanimously: - to allow the form <e/> to be used in XML documents, with or without element declarations - to allow the form <e> to be used in XML documents, if and only if the elements are declared as EMPTY in some way (which ways are allowed or required depends on other open questions, such as D.2) - to use the string '/>' as the NET delimiter in the SGML declaration of XML documents - to specify that the <e> form is allowed for compatibility reasons Rationale: Allowing the form <e> simplifies learning and conversion for existing SGML and HTML documents and users -- one of the rare cases where these two populations seem to have the same requirement. Allowing some self-identifying form simplifies the parsing of documents significantly, and makes it much easier to work without explicit declarations. Allowing both forms was felt to be a useful compromise -- part of the committee would have preferred to allow only one form, but was evenly split between the 8879 form and the self-identifying form. The entire committee felt unanimously, however, that allowing both forms was workable, particularly if the spec makes reasonably clear that one is the preferred form and the other is included only for compatibility reasons. The choice among the proposed self-identifying form was motivated in part by pragmatic considerations and in part by aesthetics. If XML EMPTY elements carry end-tags then the EMPTY keyword will have different meanings to an XML and an SGML system; this was felt to entail too many complications, so <e></e> was ruled out. The form <@e> was not felt significantly easier or harder to implement than the form <e/>, though this may vary in different implementations. Both <@e> and <e/> may be compatible or incompatible with whatever delimiters for empty elements are present in SGML-97. There was a clear preference, however, for the form <e/>, based in part on the visual effect of the slash. -C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
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