- From: Steven R. Newcomb <srn@techno.com>
- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:15:13 -0500
- To: w3c-sgml-wg@www10.w3.org
> >Upon arrival at the read-only asset, > >the BOS is still pretty much guaranteed to include the session-start > >document; otherwise, the user couldn't have arrived at the read-only > >asset. > This only works if your read-only asset inherits the BOS of all the > documents in the chain used to reach it, or the BOS of a start point > document that covers the whole of a document set. Yes, but it is literally impossible for such inheritance NOT to take place without deliberate user intervention. If a user is in a document, then that document is by definition in the BOS. If a user traverses to another document, he can only get there by adding that document to the BOS. When he arrives at the traversed-to document, removal of the traversed-from document from the BOS can only be done deliberately and consciously. There is no automatic removal of items from the BOS. But what HyTime says (or doesn't say) is irrelevant here. The important thing is that this concept works, it works solidly, it's as foolproof as it can be, it answers Terry's heartfelt and very real requirement, it imposes no unreasonable demands on applications, it's relatively easy to implement, and it provides very significant power that is now unavailable to Web users. > What you are talking about in the first of these is the browser's > History list. But how on earth do I know which entry in my History > list is the one that contains the copyright notice and any necessary > disclaimers? Because the session-start (hub) document was in fact browsed by the user, the links it contains are known to the application, and their linkends in other documents, when the user stumbles across them for whatever reason, are therefore also known to the application, full stop. There is no need to look anything up. None of this imposes a requirement for a history list. The application is responsible for knowing where the links are that it is providing the hotspots for, and, since it knows where the links are, it also knows their other linkends and can take you there, if possible, on demand. > On the Web there is no guarantee that you will access a document via > its session start document. In fact, for any reasonably large data > set you can normally guarantee that you won't. So the question > becomes "how do you identify the BOS" associated with this page if > it resides with the session start document". What you need to do is > to have a pointer to the BOS that says "This Web page should be used > with this BOS". (Isn't this the catalog for the file set?) When you use the BOS concept, the only thing that matters is the user's decisions as to which documents (and therefore, which link sets) are known to the application. As I said before, upon arrival at any document, the user has the option of adding that document's BOS to the actual BOS in effect for this session, or of replacing the active BOS with that document's BOS (which means that the application will "forget" about the links that exist in documents that are not present in the new BOS). At any time, the user can create and/or use *any* BOS. If the user fails to use any suggested BOS, the user does so at his own risk. If this means that he may unknowingly violate some term of his license agreement, that's tough for him. Ignorance does not excuse malfeasance, especially when pains have been taken to ensure that access to the relevant knowledge is easily available. > >If the user is running an application which is like any > >typical Web browser, the session-start document is still in a local > >cache, so the frailty of the Web network is not even an issue. The > >session-start document contains links which effectively place one or > >more hot links at various points in the read-only asset back to the > >session-start document. When traversed, those hot links can take the > >user to the copyright notice or the license agreement, or whatever. > > How? The problem is which set of links should be used. If I annotate one of > your documents the session start document will point to my copyright notice. Oops. I do not understand why your annotation of my document has anything to do with this discussion, so I'm now going to try to bring your scenario together with mine. If Martin annotates Steven's valuable read-only document, then Martin must put Martin's annotations in Martin's own document. (I'm assuming here that Martin's rights do not include the right to change Steven's document.) Privately, Martin loans his annotations to David. If David wants to read Steven's document as annotated by Martin, David must include Martin's document in David's session's BOS, as well as Steven's document, in order to see Martin's annotations in the context of Steven's document. If David does not include Martin's annotation document in David's session's BOS, he can't see Martin's annotations in the context of Steven's document, or in any other context, for that matter. The BOS *is* the user's context in some very fundamental sense. Steven and Len are both publishers. Steven's valuable document was not always Steven's; Steven bought all the right, title, and interest in the valuable document from Len. At the same time, in effect, Steven bought all of Len's customers for that valuable document, because Len's former customers still need access to the valuable document and now they're going to pay Steven for usage rights similar to those they had when Len owned it. The document used to be in Len's catalog, but now it's in Steven's. (Len's catalog provides a forwarding address to Steven's catalog, as a courtesy to Len's former and current customers.) Not wishing to endanger the value of the document that Steven bought from Len, Steven doesn't edit it, but instead Steven provides it with a separate session-start document. Steven's and Len's catalogs do not give the address of the document itself; they only give the address of the session-start document, so customers pretty much have to start there. (If they don't start there, that's their problem, because ignorance of what's in the advertised session-start document will not excuse them from abiding by its terms.) In order to gain access to the valuable document, they *must* add at least some of Steven's session-start document's suggested BOS to their BOS in order to get to the valuable document, because the suggested BOS is the only place where the actual address of the valuable document can be found, and you can't traverse to something that's not in your BOS. In any case, the links in the session start document must be processed by the application because, by definition, you can't be in a document without it itself being in your BOS. Therefore, any annotation links in the session-start document that can take users from the valuable document back to session-start document, where Steven's license arrangements with the user are documented, are guaranteed to be in the user's BOS. Imagine now that Martin publishes his annotations. "Wow," Eliot says, reading about this new publication. "I never did understand what that document of Len's was trying to say, and I generally understand Martin's explanations. I'm going to try reading it again along with Martin's annotations." So Eliot buys the right to use Martin's annotations from Martin, and the right to use Steven's valuable document from Steven (or maybe from Martin because by arrangement with Steven, Martin resells those rights along with his annotations). Eliot enters Steven's document by means of the session-start document that Steven provided, and he adds Martin's annotations to his BOS manually. (Or, more likely, he starts with Martin's annotations document, which is easier because it includes Steven's session-start document in its suggested BOS. Or, maybe Martin didn't hear that Len had sold the document to Steven, so Martin's annotations document's suggested BOS includes only Len's old address for the document; this causes no problem, because what's at that address now is a placeholder document whose suggested BOS includes Steven's session-start document, and perhaps some XML/Web-specific way of saying "Any entity declarations that give the address of this document should be changed to reflect its new address: http://www.steven.org/Old_Len_Document.xml". Of course, this new address is not actually the address of the valuable document; it's the address of the session-start document that Steven wants all users to have in their BOSs when viewing the valuable document.) When Eliot arrives at the valuable document, both Steven's copyright notice (and other licensing information) and Martin's annotations are available as hot links from within the valuable document. The valuable document, of course, need contain no evidence that any of this is going on. One of the great beauties of doing things this way is that Martin's annotation links can't go stale just because Steven bought the annotated document from Len. Steven didn't have to edit the document in order to change the licensing information. No matter how Martin's links addressed the contents of the valuable document -- even (*gulp*) by counting all the byte offsets to each linkend -- Martin's annotation document only needs to change exactly one entity declaration in order to keep working, and that's absolutely the only change necessary. (For purposes of this discussion, I'm ignoring the possibility of any sort of public cataloging utility that might obviate any necessity for Martin even to change the entity declaration.) If ilinks, anchor awareness, and the BOS concept are supported, anybody can annotate anything, even when the thing being annotated is read-only. (Aside to Terry: The owner of the thing being annotated certainly has the right to forbid the publication of such annotations as a condition of licensed use. I don't think you can -- or would want to -- prevent people from doing something which is just like writing in the margins of books that they have purchased. The publication of such marginalia is another matter, of course.) --Steve Steven R. Newcomb President voice +1 716 271 0796 TechnoTeacher, Inc. fax +1 716 271 0129 (courier: 23-2 Clover Park, Internet: srn@techno.com Rochester NY 14618) FTP: ftp.techno.com P.O. Box 23795 WWW: http://www.techno.com Rochester, NY 14692-3795 USA
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