- From: Peter Flynn <pflynn@curia.ucc.ie>
- Date: 21 Dec 1996 22:22:34 +0000 (GMT)
- To: w3c-sgml-wg@www10.w3.org
David Durand writes: (and I too thank Tim for a very clear startup) The basic list is good, though I second Martin's comment -- we should not depend on the presence of IDs in documents, if indexing of read-only material is a goal. Are we attempting to provide pointers into non-SGML material as well? I must, unfortunately, disclaim knowledge of the new HyTime stuff -- I've not had a chance to look at it because all my markup-related time has been taken up with XML. Having looked at both the HyTime stuff and the TEI Extended Pointer Notation, I am now fairly convinced that the TEI mechanism currently has the edge, partly because it's easy to get across to newcomers, and partly because it is already implemented in Panorama. (Blame Mike S-M for this -- it was his presentation of it after SGML96 which swung my pendulum :-) Putting on the end-user's hat for a minute, I can see the following from where I sit (and there are doubtless many others): Important o maintenance of existing HTML anchor mechanism o bidirectionality o point-by-ID } with resolution involving more o point-by-markup-tree } than a start-point like foo#bar o point-by-keyword } (ie start- and end-points) Nice-to-have o pointing into non-SGML, non-HTML documents o pointing into graphics, sound, video, 3d-space etc o pointing into other applications (eg databases) o tracking of who is pointing into your own stuff :-) Putting the design hat back on, we should probably not ignore the fact that the existing anchor mechanism of HTML does provide for substantially more functionality than most browser makers have seen fit to provide to date, and that ISINDEX, FORM, IMG, APP, APPLET, EMBED, OBJECT, STYLE, and even SCRIPT can also be regarded as hyperlinks in the sense that they state the existence of a link between point X in a document and some point Y in the external world. Finally, wearing the management headgear, I'd appreciate some advice from those experienced inside the W3C as to the pressure for implementation. I assume it is not mission-critical, otherwise the major vendors would have brought forward their own solutions long ago. Without wishing them to betray any commercial confidence, can we assume that this green light from the ERB is an indication that there is no imminent announcement of a ready-made, working solution in the pipeline from any of the players? ///Peter
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