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- Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 19:11:10 +0100 (BST)
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Time:
10:00:00 Fri May 11 2003 in America/New York duration 120 minutes
which is equivalent to
15:00:00 Fri May 11 2003 in Europe/London
Phone: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim)#7332
irc: irc.w3.org #rdfcore
1: scribe: Jeremy Carroll
A co-chair requests scribe reviews
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0216.html
so that the script can extract the actions list.
Suggest use date format:
date:2003-05-11
2: Roll Call
Regrets: FrankM, PatrickS
3: Review Agenda
4: Next telecon 16 May 2003 1000 Boston Time
Last One before WWW 2003
Volunteer Scribe
5: Minutes of 02 May 2003 telecon
See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0031.html
6: Confirm Status of Completed Actions
ACTION: 2003-03-14#6 gk
review semantics editor
ACTION: 20030425#5 danc
figure out the cost to WebOnt of accepting timbl-03
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0040.html
ACTION: 20030502#1 bwm
send the comments in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0002.html as comments from RDFCore on OWL Reference LCWD
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webont-comments/2003May/0004.html
ACTION: 20030502#2 jang
send revised OWL S+AS 2.3.2.1 words to the rdfcore list
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0074.html
ACTION: 20030502#3 gk
review 4.1 of AS&S especially the translation to triples table, with an eye on implementation.
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0045.html
ACTION: 20030502#4 jang
split s+as comments in 0291 into editorial substantial issues, with issue ids
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0074.html
ACTION: 20030502#5 jjc
explain point about use of (restrictions on use of )blank nodes in OWL DL, Lite and propose a comment for OWL
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0070.html
ACTION: 20030502#7 bwm
Remind webont co-chairs about timbl-03 issue
ACTION: 20030502#8 eric
put timbl-03 issue on the agenda for next SWCG
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-semweb-cg/2003May/0002.html
ACTION: 20030502#9 bwm
add danc-04 to postponed issues list
see:
http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#rdfs-fyi
ACTION: 20030502#14 bwm
allocate a formal comment ID for the rdfs:Schema issue
see:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#eikon-01
ACTION: 20030502#17 jjc
make a proposal to the list to treat XMLLiteral like any other datatype
see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0016.html
7: RDFCore comments on OWL AS+S
20030502#2 jang send revised OWL S+AS 2.3.2.1 words to the rdfcore list
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0074.html
20030502#3 gk review 4.1 of AS+S especially the translation to triples
table, with an eye on implementation.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0045.html
20030502#4 jang split s+as comments in 0291 into editorial substantial issues,
with issue ids
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0074.html
20030502#5 jjc explain point about use of (restrictions on use of )blank
nodes in OWL DL, Lite and propose a comment for OWL
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0070.html
See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0291.html
8: Status on Incoming Last Call Comments
2003-03-28#9 jjc update Concepts in light of XML Schema LC
review editorial comments
2003-03-28#11 danbri check for editorial actions on Schema from
XML Schema LC review
9: Issue xmlsch-07 datatype definition
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030123-issues/#xmlsch-07
Formal proposal to not accept this comment as it has been withdrawn by
the xml schema group:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0316.html
10: Issue tex-01
According to the IRC log:
http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/rdfcore/2003-04-04#T16-21-39
we resolved tex-01 on the 4th April but this was not recorded in the IRC log.
Therefore propose, as was previously agreed and not recorded:
- classify tex-01 as a clarification
- add the following note to concepts:
[[
Note: The case normalization of language tags is part of
the description of the abstract syntax, and implicitly the abstract
behaviour of RDF applications. It is not intended to constrain an
RDF implementation to actually normalize the case. Crucially, the result
of comparing two language tags should not be sensitive to the case of
the original input.
]]
- add the following test cases
[[
<rdf:Description>
<eg:prop xml:lang="en-us">a</eg:prop>
</rdf:Description>
entails
<rdf:Description>
<eg:prop xml:lang="EN-us">a</eg:prop>
</rdf:Description>
entails
<rdf:Description>
<eg:prop xml:lang="en-US">a</eg:prop>
</rdf:Description>
]]
JJC please update/correct as necessary.
11: Issue timbl-03
We had a couple of proposals:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0262.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0280.html
But could not agree.
Decided to investigate cost to WEBONT of changing:
20030425#5 danc figure out the cost to WebOnt of accepting timbl-03
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0040.html
too high.
Others disagree - its a small change
PatH
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0058.html
JJC
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0066.html
However, jjc favours keeping the type triples because its better for Owl DL
to require type triples everywhere, than have special cases where they
are needed in some places and not in others.
12: Language tags in typed literals
At last weeks telecon a straw poll indicated we were of a mind that having
lang tags in the abstract syntax of typed literals was a mistake.
After some discussion on the list Jeremy has offered two options for removing them:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003May/0071.html
A co-chair would like us to be clear about the advantages/effects of these
changes.
13: Issue xmlsch-01 Typed Literal Structure
Various proposals to close:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0247.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0252.html
14: Issue xmlsch-02 Whitespace facets
Proposal:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0224.html
15: Semantics Issues
We have several semantics issues:
horst-01
pfps-01
pfps-03
pfps-05
pfps-09
That I suspect we are ready to close, but we need a formal motion to
close them.
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