- From: Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo@agfa.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:43:05 +0200
- To: "pat hayes <phayes" <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Cc: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org, w3c-rdfcore-wg-request@w3.org
removing the closure rules? I'm totally unconvinced and feeling completely lost... (again tears) better later publish an errata! -- Jos De Roo, AGFA http://www.agfa.com/w3c/jdroo/ pat hayes <phayes@ihmc.us> To: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com> Sent by: cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org w3c-rdfcore-wg-requ Subject: Re: Cut back RDFCore semantics doc est@w3.org 2003-06-17 03:43 PM >I had a chat with Pat yesterday, expressing my concerns, hightened by >the failure to make a quorum last Friday, that the WG need to finish and >that I could see no end to the steady trickle of error reports on the >semantics document. > >Pat observed that many of the current difficulties are with the closure >rules, an informative section of the document, and suggested we could >move forward with that section removed. He has prepared such a >document: > > http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes/RDF_Semant_Edit_curt.html > >Pat also informed me he is about to be 'communications challenged' for a >couple of weeks. > >I'm not sure if Pat is still working on correcting the closure rules. Yes, he is. >But even if he were and thought he had a correct set, it would take time >to verify them and given the history, there has to be a concern that >further remedial work would be needed. Indeed. >I note that the list of changes is also a lot shorter with section 4 >removed. > >I am leaning towards proceeding with the curtailed document as a >proposed rec candidate. I am assuming that removal of an informative >section should not force a second last call. DanC? The closure rules >can always be published separately as a note. This way we can have a >proposed rec candidate for review by Friday. I will be updating the document at that URL until late tomorrow, but the changes should not be substantial and will be noted in the change section. > >I'm still concerned about the presence of the LBase form. I'd like to >be sure we have got things right, and I'm not sure what argument would >convince me that the lbase section was correct, given the difficulties >we have encountered with the closure rules. The key difference is that the document does not assert that they are right, except that to the editor's belief they are in correspondence with the model theory. The appendix is simply a summary of the model theory in axiomatic form. >Please let me know what you think. > >Brian Pat PS, Brian, I would still like your suggestions about rewording -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32501 (850)291 0667 cell phayes@ihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
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