- From: <Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com>
- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:22:42 +0300
- To: <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: <phayes@ihmc.us>, <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>, <duerst@w3.org>
> -----Original Message----- > From: ext Brian McBride [mailto:bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com] > Sent: 04 July, 2003 14:08 > To: Stickler Patrick (NMP/Tampere) > Cc: phayes@ihmc.us; rdf core; duerst@w3.org > Subject: RE: XML observation > > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 08:41, Patrick.Stickler@nokia.com wrote: > > [...] > > > These tensions come to a head in cases such as RDF/XML when you > > use XML as a markup formalism for a data structure which > encapsulates > > data that itself uses XML as a markup formalism for > document modelling, > > since, as Pat points out, XML itself fails to provide any > > distinction between the encapsulation and the encapsulated. > > Aye, here seems to be the (a?) nub; the distinction between a fragment > of XML being part of a document and being embedded (is > 'quoted' a better > term) in it. It is well known that XML has trouble embedding > XML inside > itself - entities being another case in point. > > We need to be sure everyone understands what is being said here. Feel > free to improve on the following. > > Consider: > > [[ > This sentence, which refers to the French sentence "La plume > de am tante > est rouge." is in English. > ]] > > This sentence is true, even though it contains a French sentence, > because the French sentence is referred to in the sentence, but is not > part of it. > > I don't think XML has such a mechanism for quoting bits of XML such as > in the above sentence, so that contextual attributes such as xml base > and xml lang don't apply inside them. Patrick is arguing, I > think, that > parseType="Literal" is such a mechanism introduced into RDF/XML. > > [...] > > > > > An RDF literal is precisely that, a *literal*. It should not > > be infected with the contextual characteristics of the language > > used to describe the data structures which encapsulate it. > > Martin has argued that it should and spelled out his reasons which I > summarized in: > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Jul/0072.html > > It would be helpful if you could spell out the arguments for why a > parseType="Literal" fragment should not inherit xml:lang from its > context? Well, I thought I had. I think Pat also has. If it's not yet clear, then perhaps someone else can take a stab at it... Patrick
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