- From: Dan Brickley <danbri@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 05:56:47 -0400
- To: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
- Cc: rdfcore-in-exile@vapours.rdfweb.org
(copied to the emergency list as I'm unsure how fast our mail hubs are yet)
Time:
10:00:00 Fri Aug 22 2003 in America/New York duration 60 minutes
which is equivalent to
15:00:00 Fri Aug 22 2003 in Europe/London
Phone: +1-617-761-6200 (Zakim)#7332
irc: irc.w3.org #rdfcore
1. Selection of scribe
JJC to scribe (minutes may be late due to uk bank holiday)
Scribe for next week?
Please could the minutes conform to:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Apr/0216.html
2: Roll Call
Possible regrets from Eric Miller
3: Review Agenda
4: Next telecon 29 Aug 2003 1000 Boston Time (60 mins? 90 mins?)
5: Minutes of 15 Aug 2003 telecon
See:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0215.html
6: Confirm Status of Completed Actions
20030711#4 danc to get a test case for pfps-09 into OWL test
case doc
20030815#3 jjc chase an HP endorsement of the impl report
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0239.html
20030815#9 jjc to draft implementation report response to \
I18N objection
20030815#6 jjc incorporate XMLLiteral text into concepts
20030815#12 jjc modify concepts wrt whitespace/xsd resolution
both done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0218.html
7: Misc Actions - Status
20030425#10 em carry xmlsch WG's offer of help wrt xmlsch-12
to semantic web coordination group
20030815#1 danbri to fold PatH's words for reification into schema
20030815#2 danbri summarise rubyrdf for em
20030815#4 path incorporate the XMLLiteral text from message 0185 \
into semantics
20030815#5 daveb incorporate XMLLiteral text into syntax
ACTION 20030815#7 jjc review syntax changes
ACTION 20030815#5 daveb incorporate XMLLiteral text into syntax
ACTION 20030815#6 jang review test cases in light of XMLLiteral
20030815#10 jang ensure test cases affected by WS processing \
are marked with a note in the TC document
20030815#11 daveb note in syntax to be changed wrt whitespace
20030815#13 jjc inform XMLSCHEMA WG wrt whitespace resolution
20030815#14 jjc inform PFPS wrt whitespace/xsd resolution
20030815#15 path to write to PFPS to characterise the outstanding \
objection wrt semantics design so that it can be captured correctly.
8: Administrivia - emergency mailing list
http://rdfweb.org/pipermail/rdfcore-in-exile/2003-August/000000.html
We lost 2+ days of email discussion time this week (no actual messages
believed lost). It appears the mail virus problems are under control now,
but just in case, we have mailto:rdfcore-in-exile@vapours.rdfweb.org should
this happen again. Please always copy the main RDF Core list address.
9: OWL is in Candidate Recommendation
OWL FAQ: http://www.w3.org/2003/08/owlfaq
http://www.w3.org/News/2003#item138
http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/CR-owl-features-20030818/
[[
This CR period will extend until at least 20 September 2003. After that
date, when and if the exit criteria are met, the group intends to request
Proposed Recommendation status.
]]
Exit criteria:
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/impls#exit
these include...
"finish resolving dependency on RDF Core specs, esp. RDF Semantics"
9: (CR) request draft - i18n dissenting opinion text
We have a draft from jjc - does this capture the issue/problem to our
satisfaction?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0244.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/att-0244/i18n-part.html
Dissenting Opinion: xml:lang and rdf:parseType="Literal"
Jeremy's doc describes current situation and design space the WG explored.
[[
The only serious other contender, in my opinion, is the wrapper hack in
syntax, possibly only when the xml:lang is anything other than "". I think
we should have that specified as the alternative design and go to CR asking
for implementor feedback between those two designs, using the 'at risk'
phaseolgy. While that does not seem to be precisely what the process
document has in mind, that is what OWL have done.
]]
review from Patrick
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0236.html
Any further comments? Can we endorse this text?
10: Document Status
(see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/ for links to pubrules checker)
- Primer
revised http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0207.html
- Concepts
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0218.html
- Syntax
editor's draft:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0216.html
- Semantics
'ready to go'
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0245.html
- Schema
--reification text updated?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-schema-20030117/
- Test Cases
Test case outstanding actions, JanG, Mon 18th:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0211.html
- Implementation Report, http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/20030331-advance
11: French translation - review sought
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-schema-20030117/combined-ns-translation.rdf.fr
We have RDF schema text for rdf: and rdfs: terms
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/TR/WD-rdf-schema-20030117/combined-ns-translation.rdf.fr
(by Max Froumentin and DanB)
We could publish this along with docs, could do with review from
French-speaking RDFCore member(s).
12: Treatment of XSD types
thread spun off http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0231.html
[[
Hopefully for Pat to just confirm that I didn't imagine it when I
thought I heard him say that this is now the treatment of XSD types: ie,
that their denotation is a pair of (typename, value).
]] --Jan
[[
xsd:integer is still a subclass of xsd:decimal (which may or may not be
true with intentional semantics, regardless of the datatype L2V
definition); or rather, the value space of one is a subset of the value
space of the other (in which case nothing needs doing), or:
xsd:integer's value space is not a subset of the value space of
xsd:decimal after all, in which case I add another "What?!?" to the
list, but that's a problem to raise with the xml schema people.
]] -- JanG
[[
Yup; when Pat said, "none of the XSD datatypes intersect", he meant,
with the value space for XML Literal, not each other. Sorry if I gave
anyone heartaches over their cornflakes.
]]
JanG, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2003Aug/0241.html
Is this resolved / closed / understood now? Any affect on specs?
13: Publication / next steps?
Proceed with CR vs LC2 ...
(perspective from Brian sought...)
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