- From: Patrick Stickler <patrick.stickler@nokia.com>
- Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:15:15 +0200
- To: ext Jos De_Roo <jos.deroo.jd@belgium.agfa.com>
- CC: RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
On 2002-02-04 11:03, "ext Jos De_Roo" <jos.deroo.jd@belgium.agfa.com> wrote:
> [sorry for the delay in answer, but I still have to scrape this from the
> rdfcore archive because my mail is still not coming through]
>
>>> actually I see that already
>>>
>>> _:s1 <property> "property" .
>>>
>>> entails
>>>
>>> _:s2 <property> "property" .
>>>
>>> so I don't see the point of reification
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jos
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm quite curious how you come to this result, since
>> bNodes are distinct and there is no definition by
>> RDF, that I'm aware of, that two bNodes of
>> type rdf:Statement which have an intersection of
>> the same S, P, and O triples are the same "thing".
>>
>> The two bNodes reify the same triple, but are
>> distinct reifications in their own right. No?
>> Why wouldn't we treat them as distinct resources?
>>
>> What am I missing here (honestly)?
>
> Patrick, this is plain MT
> At the end of chapter 2. Simple entailment between RDF graphs.
> you may find
>
> [[[
> It might be thought that the operation of changing a bound variable
> would be an example of an inference which was valid but not covered
> by the interpolation lemma, e.g. the inference of
>
> _:x foo baz
>
> from
>
> _:y foo baz
>
> Recall however that by our conventions, these two expressions describe
> identical RDF graphs.
> ]]]
>
> after all, bNodes are blank (circles with nothing in)
>
> --
> Jos
Hmmm.... I'm trying to understand this from the viewpoint
of the bNode as denoting "some thing" that has properties.
E.g. if we have
_:B ex:father #Bob .
_:B ex:gender ex:Male .
_:G ex:father #Bob .
_:G ex:gender ex:Female .
does this really entail
_:B ex:gender ex:Female .
_:G ex:gender ex:Male .
I.e. we have two "things", each has the same
father, but they have different genders (i.e
one is a boy/son, the other a girl/daughter).
I don't see this as any different from the
two bNodes of type rdf:Statement which share
the same property values for S, P, and O but
which have other non-shared properties.
If the MT is really saying that _:B is a girl,
then there seems to be a problem with the MT.
Eh?
Patrick
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