- From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:51:27 -0600
- To: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
> >>>pat hayes said: >> >> Frank, your prose in section 4.1 of the primer mentions rdf:li as a >> convenience element generic XML version of container membership >> properties. My recollection is that we had decided to deprecate or >> even forbid rdf:li in this way, however (??) on the grounds that >> there was in general no way to assign numerical properties to the >> instances of rdf:li. >> >> We ought to get this straight one way or the other. If we still have >> rdf:li, can anyone tell me how to map RDF/XML into a graph? >> >> Another matter, if we keep rdf:li, then your reference to 'list >> element' is potentially confusing given the use of 'list structure' >> in the next section to refer to something completely different. > >I think you are a bit confused Pat. Yes, I was. I have to say, this idea of a 'syntax name' that isn't actually a name *is* very confusing, particularly when it sure LOOKS like a name. Im still puzzled about how it's supposed to actually work. Seems to me that the actual graph formed from some RDF/XML which uses rdf:li can vary from moment to moment at the whim of the parser, since it depends on some ordering that isnt specified in the syntax. > rdf:li is a syntax name; it has >never been an RDF property, class or whatever. We have thus never >deprecated or forbidden it. Well, its ours, right? I mean, its in our namespace? It starts with 'rdf:', after all. > >Just to be clear; RDF as we have revised has changed two names in the >RDF namespace > rdf:aboutEach rdf:aboutEachPrefix - syntax only devices, now removed > >(we've added some of course) > >The definitive words for rdf: things: > > 5.1 The RDF Namespace > http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-syntax-grammar/#section-Namespace OK, thanks. > >including: > [[Syntax names - not concepts > > RDF Description ID about bagID parseType resource li nodeID > datatype > ]] Now Im puzzled about something else. I've been using rdf:Datatype as a class name. Is that a mistake?? Pat PS. BTW, you say there that 'any other names are not defined and SHOULD generate a warning when encountered' which seems a bit strong. That means for example that any OWL vocabulary is going to generate an RDF warning. In fact, any RDFS vocabulary is going to generate an RDF warning. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32501 (850)291 0667 cell phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes s.pam@ai.uwf.edu for spam
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