- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:29:01 -0600
- To: Brian McBride <bwm@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
>Dan Connolly wrote: > >[...] > >>Maybe we can convince >>the implementors that have implemented it this way that it's >>a bug. But it's a widely deployed bug. Perhaps not a lot >>of applications depend on this behaviour, and it's >>feasible to "fix" the bug; i.e. redeploy the implementations. > > >There was a long thread a while ago on rdf interest arguing that M&S >could be interpreted so that reification really represented >"statings" not statements. Suggestive that the community might by it. > >Pat keeps saying that the M&S version of reification is broken. Actually what is broken, I now think, is that there are several ideas in the M&S and they are all blurred together. Each taken alone is quite clear, but they are different. > It would be great if he could spell out in bozon terms (i.e. so I >can understand) why. I plan to. I'm drowning in datatypes at present. (bozon ? Isn't that element number 145, the first nonmetal after the Paranoids sequence?) >It seems to me that I want to say: > > I believe the sky is blue > >in which case I'm asserting my attitude towards the abstract >sentence -the sky is blue-. > >I also want to be able to say > > the sky is green is stated in http://example on 1st April 2013. > the sky is green is stated in http://anotherExample on 2nd April 2013. > >Don't we need both concepts? We need to be clear about the distinction, indeed. Or at least clear about the fact that we are refusing to acknowledge it, and have a built-in simplified world model. I think either stance is viable, in fact. We probably have to simplify this stuff somehow, this is a minefield. More later. Pat -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes
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