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Re: Standardizing on IDNA 2003 in the URL Standard

From: 신정식 <jshin1987+w3@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:59:20 -0700
Message-ID: <CAE1ONj-872d4RNjaf=ZJ=2Fgo3X1KOW7OhNZCbcExh_G-Wgdyg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl>
Cc: Gervase Markham <gerv@mozilla.org>, Mark Davis ☕ <mark@macchiato.com>, Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>, IDNA update work <idna-update@alvestrand.no>, "PUBLIC-IRI@W3.ORG" <public-iri@w3.org>, "uri@w3.org" <uri@w3.org>, John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, Marcos Sanz <sanz@denic.de>, Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>, "www-tag.w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Gervase Markham <gerv@mozilla.org>
> wrote:
> > It's not been possible to register names like ☺☺☺.com for some time now;
> > that's a big clue.
>
> I don't think it is. There's sites out that rely on underscore working
> in subdomains. You cannot register a domain name with an underscore.
>
>
> > (Are your friends really using http://xn--74h.example.com/ ?)
>
> Yeah (with "example" replaced). Renders fine in Safari, too.
>
>
> > IIRC, we must have broken a load of URLs when we decided that %-encoding
> > in URLs should always be interpreted as UTF-8 (in RFC 3986), whereas
> > beforehand it depended on the charset of the page or form producing the
> > link. Why did we do that? Because the new way was better for the future,
> > and some breakage was acceptable to attain that goal.
>
> Actually, I don't think we did. And the reason for that is that the
> non-ASCII usage was primarily in the query string.


Well,  there are tons of urls whose path part have non-ASCII characters.
They're very common in Korea, for instance.


> And as it happens,
> we still use the character encoding to go from code points to
> percent-escaped byte code points there. The IETF STD doesn't admit to
> this, which is part of the reason why we have
> http://url.spec.whatwg.org/ now.
>
>
> --
> http://annevankesteren.nl/
>
>
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