- From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:07:21 -0400
- To: Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com>
- Cc: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>, Gervase Markham <gerv@mozilla.org>, "Jungshik SHIN (������)" <jshin1987@gmail.com>, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@annevk.nl>, "public-iri@w3.org" <public-iri@w3.org>, "uri@w3.org" <uri@w3.org>, "idna-update@alvestrand.no" <idna-update@alvestrand.no>, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, "www-tag.w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>, Simon Montagu <smontagu@smontagu.org>
Shawn Steele scripsit: > A non-final sigma isn't (my understanding) a valid form of the word, Alas, things are not so simple. φιλος would be appropriate if the semantic is 'friendship', but φιλοσ, with a non-final sigma, would be appropriate as an abbreviation of φιλοσοφία 'philosophy'. The Unicode rule is to downcase capital sigma to a non-final form if a letter follows and to a final form otherwise, but this is just a convention that dumb computers can follow rather than the whole truth. > Eszett is less clear, because using eszett or ss influences the > pronunciation (at least in Germany, in Switzerland that can be > different). I imagine it's rather worse if you're Turkish and prefer > different i's. Actually, missing diacritics aren't a big problem in Turkish for native speakers, because of the vowel-harmony rules, which mean that most words contain either the front vowels e, i, ö, and ü, or else the back vowels a, ı (dotless i), o, and u, but not both in the same word. > For German, nobody is ever going to expect fußball.ch and fussball.ch > to go different place. And nobody's going to be surprised if > fußball.de and fussball.de end up at the same site. Well, there are minimal pairs like Buße 'fine' vs. Busse 'buses', but that's livable, particularly because in Switzerland and Liechtenstein they are both spelled "Busse" anyway. -- "But I am the real Strider, fortunately," John Cowan he said, looking down at them with his face cowan@ccil.org softened by a sudden smile. "I am Aragorn son http://www.ccil.org/~cowan of Arathorn, and if by life or death I can save you, I will." --LotR Book I Chapter 10
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