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Re: xmpp URIs and 3986

From: Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 03:06:23 +0200
To: uri@w3.org
Message-ID: <4526FD8F.4A4F@xyzzy.claranet.de>

Roy T. Fielding wrote:

>> For a requirement I'd expect MUSTard instead of a mere "must".

> It is not an interoperability issue.  All URIs must
> match the URI syntax -- that is the whole point of 3986.

 From my POV the main points of RFC 3986 are the best ABNF for
<IPv6address> and <IPv4address> published anywhere, and a rather
convoluted puzzle to determine its updated <uric> (that's not
the obsolete <uric> in D.2) or its "no-uric" subset of VCHAR.

  [xmpp URI]
>> If you say that's broken then the URI review process is broken.

> Submitting a document for an IRI scheme pretty much guarantees
> that it won't be reviewed.  It should have just defined a URI
> scheme and let the IRI spec define the translation.

It does that in its chapter 3.3.  My contributions are somewhat
limited to <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.w3c.uri/625> and
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.w3c.uri/669> in the reviews
of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-xmpp-iri-00.txt
and the updated -01.

The final draft was -04, and the "official" URI review request
in <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.uri-review/17> about
draft -03 apparently got no public reply.

> There will not be any changes to 3986 -- it is correct.

The missing <uric> and "no-uric" are a PITA, and RFC 4622 is an
example why that could be harmful.

> Just submit errata for the mistakes in 4622.

I'm not the author and more interested in fixing RFC 3986.  For
RFC 4408 the missing <uric> is already noted.  I've proposed to
outsource the 4408-errata as for 2616 - the official process is
too slow.  In the last archived-at drafts this is also fixed.

But I've forwarded your info to the message header review list:
<http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.message-headers/26>

Frank
Received on Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:11:50 UTC

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