- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:05:05 +0100
- To: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@apache.org>, pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Cc: uri@w3.org
At 16:51 23/04/2003 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >>"This document specifies the syntax of URIs, which are a form of global >>identifier used in Web protocols and languages. Particular uses of URIs, >>and their intended meanings in various contexts, are described in other >>specifications. In general, the entities referred to or identified by >>URIs when used in Web contexts are called "resources"., but this document >>does not specify the nature of resources or to restrict resources to any >>particular category of entities." >> >>and leave it at that. Nothing else at all about resources, no examples, >>no discussion. > >No. Look, you guys aren't the ones who have to answer questions in the >absence of definitions. I do. I refuse to leave what has been deployed >in an unspecified state, regardless of how many arguments that causes >in the Semantic Web. OK. I assume this is in response to the phrase "this document does not specify ...". I think the argument about 'refer' vs 'identify' is a bit sterile, because I think I can supply an identifier for anything that Pat can refer to, and I think that anything with an identifier can be said to have identity (the identifier being sufficient if not necessary); and clearly anything identified can be referenced. >... If SemWeb needs a better definition, then its >proponents can reach consensus on what it should be and provide me >with an appropriate text that has no adverse impact on deployed >implementations of URI. > >I am not even remotely confused about what resource means. That does >not mean the definition can't be improved. I have generally read the existing (RFC2396) text to mean that anything can be a resource. On the margin, there may be some debate about whether there are or are not things that cannot be identified, but I don't think such things really matter to the immediate future of the Web. On this assumption, maybe the last sentences of Pat's text might be: [[ The entities referred to or identified by URIs when used in Web contexts are called "resources". Anything can be a resource: there is no restriction on the nature of resources." ]] #g ------------------- Graham Klyne <GK@NineByNine.org> PGP: 0FAA 69FF C083 000B A2E9 A131 01B9 1C7A DBCA CB5E
Received on Thursday, 24 April 2003 06:25:00 UTC