- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:38:08 -0400
- To: "Larry Masinter" <lmnet@attglobal.net>
- cc: "Tim Kindberg" <timothy@hpl.hp.com>, uri@w3.org
Larry Masinter wrote:
> Could "dated URLs" meet the same requirements that were identified
> for "tags"?
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/1998Jan/0009.html
> http://lists.netsol.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009&L=URN-IETF&P=R2811
Yes, I think they do meet our requirements as stated, but perhaps we
left out one criterion from that list.
Martin Duerst pointed me to your dated-url proposal, by the way. Tim
Kindberg and I debated whether to specifically reference it in our
draft, and decided against it, thinking it was more casual a proposal
than one would normally reference and that it addressed a somewhat
different problem. Instead we simply added a line about there being
various previous proposals in this space. I apologize if that was
insufficient; I'm still learning the practices in this field.
I like the tag syntax a little more than dated-url, but my main
problem with dated-url for my application is in the semantics of the
URI. I interpret
urn:dated-url:200008:http://larry.masinter.net/
as denoting a web page as it existed at some point in the past (even
if there never was such a web page). (More technically, I would
reference the HTTP RFC's definition of what http: URIs denote.) Your
e-mail above suggests you mean the string it as a denotation-free
identifier, but I think that's counter-intuitive. I also think the
web-page-as-it-existed is a very useful concept in its own right.
(Although such a URI scheme probably ought to provide for all the
external variables that could effect the page, not just time. Complex
issue.)
Maybe I should say a little more about semantics: there's an open
question in the semantic web community about whether http: URIs can
only denote web pages or can be used to denotate arbitrary things in
arbitrary domains of discourse. One of my goals for the tag: URI is
to provide an alternative, so people who think http: URIs should only
be used for web pages can still use URI syntax for arbitrary
identification.
-- sandro
Received on Monday, 30 April 2001 02:41:12 UTC