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- Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 00:34:05 +0900
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Larry Masinter wrote: > > I think the main problem is that the W3C web pages on URIs > are in disarray, and full of personal opinion without critical > review. I'm not sure what you mean by "disarray" but the vast majority of the W3C web site is "personal opinion without critical review." > There's no longer a link to http://www.w3.org/Addressing/ > from http://www.w3.org/Architecture/ Yes, there is; the link text is Naming and Addressing (URIs) Are we looking at the same page? The one I'm looking at has last revised $Date: 2000/04/13 20:33:14 $ by $Author: hoschka $ in the signature. > any more, and the addressing > document's not in good shape. For example, > > A Beginner's Guide to URLs > The classic intro to URLs, by The NCSA Mosaic team > > is hardly a useful guide to URLs at this point in time; No? Why not? By google's unbiased metrics (cf http://www.google.com/why_use.html), it's the 2nd most relevant page in the Web to the query "URL introduction" http://www.google.com/search?q=URL+introduction&num=10&meta=hl%3Den%26lr%3D > and > the document includes the continued confusion over the fact that > syntactically, URNs fit within the URL syntactic space. It is a fact that each URN, for example, urn:abc:def fits within the URL syntactic space. I don't understand what you mean by "continued confusion". Please explain in detail. > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI seems to be based on > willful ignorance of economic reality-- that, for example, > companies don't change their domain names when they change > their company names, or that document authors might have > some control over the domain names available. We're completely aware that companies change their domain names; but we maintain that it's cost-effective to maintain the old addresses rather than to break the incoming links. There are likely to be reasonable exceptions, but the Web could hardly suffer from a few more webmasters keeping this guideline rather than breaking incoming links for no good reason. > http://www.w3.org/Addressing/schemes.html looks like some > notes that someone (Dan Connolly?) keeps in his spare time. Again, like most of the W3C web site, it's maintained in an ad-hoc fashion, yes. But it's useful to me and at least a few other people, and I have never seen anything elsewhere in the Web that gives this information, so I keep it around. > Probably if we got together we could put it into shape > in 3-4 hours of joint work. There's a standing invitation: "If you know of any that aren't here, please tell me via the relevant forums." -- http://www.w3.org/Addressing/schemes.html By all means, if you have contributions to the page, send them here (to uri@w3.org). > I propose that we institute a W3C Activity that consists of > a URI coordination group that meets once to clean up the > existing material, and then meets quarterly (every 3 months) > for a maximum 1-hour phone conference to reviews the status > of the W3C web pages on URIs. Any standards work, documents, > etc, should be processed as IETF RFCs. In addition, we need > someone on W3C staff who has write access to the web pages and > is willing to spend ~30 minutes every 2 weeks updating the > web pages based on comments. I'd establish the write policy > at the initial meeting, but my proposal is for inclusion rather > than exclusion. Well... given that we do this maintenance already, more or less, I'm interested in the possibility of more involvement from the W3C membership; I haven't managed to make a good case for it yet. A quarterly teleconference is an interesting idea, but I don't see obvious criteria for membership; do you have something in mind? > We might want to coordinate with IANA over the "official registry" > of URIs. > > If we're concrete about the work plan, maybe we can get such > a minor activity by the W3C membership. It's a relatively small > amount of staff resources that it might be covered under other > "web site maintenance" activities, except for the scheduling and > coordination of the Coordination Group. > > Larry > -- > http://larry.masinter.net -- Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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