Re: Re SGML URC spec comments

Brian Behlendorf (brian@organic.com)
Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:05:37 -0700 (PDT)


Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 18:05:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Behlendorf <brian@organic.com>
Subject: Re: Re SGML URC spec comments
To: Terry Allen <terry@ora.com>
Cc: uri@bunyip.com
In-Reply-To: <9506251329.ZM26268@dmg.west.ora.com>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.89.9506251711.W10466-0100000@eat.organic.com>


You're right, and I think we had this discussion before, the outcome was that
my use of "attach" is inaccurate, it should really be "create and point" or
"make" - attach implies that authors/servers should be compelled to also
provide resources for housing and distributing SOAPs of their own content,
while what I really want to see is that the ability to give a SOAP is not
specifically allowed nor disallowed by authors/servers. In fact, completely
divorcing it could ensure that SOAPs are accurate and that "bad" SOAPs aren't
weeded out.  The question is, how does one ask for the complete set of SOAPs
for a given page?  Superdistribution of SOAPs a la NNTP? 

	Brian

On Sun, 25 Jun 1995, Terry Allen wrote:
> I think Ron answered Brian's questions about VRML the way I would.
> I want to take issue again with Brian's suggestion that wrt global
> annotations, 
> 
> >The right to
> >attach these comments should *not* be controlled by the author
> 
> I've argued against this in the past on copyright grounds (and I
> still feel that way).  However, Justice Souter's recent decision
> in Hurley v. Irish-American GLB Group of Boston suggests that there
> is a First Amendment angle:
> 
> "The fundamental rule of protection under the First Amendment ...
> [is] that a speaker has the autonomy to choose the content of his
> own message."
> 
> I maintain that the Hurley case is precisely parallel to what global
> annos without author permission would amount to:  the I-A GLB G of
> Boston wanted to comment on the parade without the permission of the
> parade organizers (who won).  For excerpts, see NYT Tuesday, June 26
> 1995.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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