- From: Philipp Hoschka <Philipp.Hoschka@sophia.inria.fr>
- Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:56:12 +0200
- To: smil-editors@w3.org
------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: symm-request@w3.org Delivery-Date: Tue Jun 9 20:06 MET 199 Return-Path: <symm-request@w3.org> Received: from sophia.inria.fr by www45.inria.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18562 for <hoschka@www45.inria.fr>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:06:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www10.w3.org by sophia.inria.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20894 for <Philipp.Hoschka@sophia.inria.fr>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 20:06:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www19.w3.org (www19.w3.org [18.29.0.19]) by www10.w3.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16843 for <hoschka@w3.org>; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by www19.w3.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA29349; Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199806091805.OAA29349@www19.w3.org> Message-Id: <199806091805.UAA18553@www45.inria.fr> To: symm@w3.org cc: dan@w3.org From: Philipp Hoschka <hoschka@w3.org> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:05:47 +0200 Subject: Minutes telecon June 9 Resent-From: symm@w3.org X-Mailing-List: <symm@w3.org> archive/latest/1659 X-Loop: symm@w3.org Sender: symm-request@w3.org Resent-Sender: symm-request@w3.org Precedence: list Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4940 Please say if you have corrections/additions Participants - ------------ 1) Mark, The Productivity Works 2) George, Daisy Consortium 3) Nabil, INRIA 4) Michael, Bell Labs 5) Warner, Philips 6) Rob, RealNetworks 7) Bruce, RealNetworks 8) Dick, CWI 9) Lloyd, CWI 10) Wo, NIST 11) Jin, DEC 12) Dan, W3C 13) Philipp, W3C Draft revisions based on feedback - --------------------------------- The current status can be seen at http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/Group/PR-smil-19980409/ Changes are marked red. - - Addding "skip-content" to media objects was wrong - please ignore the previous announcement - - "show" was added to the "anchor" element Still to do - - Namespace id for SMIL is URL of the spec - - Clarify relation to CSS even more - - Clarify working of "system-bitrate" -> connect to server to find out bitrate is one possible interpretation -> strike "average", say "approximate bitrate" -> players can support varying degrees of exactidue in how they determine the bitrate ACTION: Rob- suggest wording Status of interop testing - ------------------------- Report any missing data within next 24 hours ! ACTION: Bruce/RN - update testfiles based on feedback from other testers ACTION: Bruce/RN - make "tar" file of JPEGs available that are used in RN's testsuite ACTION: Philipp: Update tar file at W3C Looking at AT RISK features in http://smil.nist.gov/Testcase.html at the time of the telecon: "anchor-content-skip.smil": - - 2nd "pass" missing - - ACTION: Wo will provide implementation "element-end.smil": - - 2nd "pass" missing - - Hope: Jin can do this ?? "embed-smil.smi": - - No pass - - not a requirement for interop test - - ACTION: Wo: mark with a * "embeded-link.smi": - - No second pass - - Reason: uses textstream, not html - - ACTION: RN: update testfile - - ACTION: CWI: test it (should work) "ignore-prologs.smi": (my notes are a bit sketchy here) - - No second pass - - Wo: some problem with his XML parser on this one - - Doesn't look critical "link-to-fragment.smi" - - Misses second "pass" - - Jin: support the feature - - Michael: tested other example with HPAS, didn't work - - Philipp: J{AS pass was recorded at Washington meeting - - ACTION: Jin - get the test to run, and report it "smil-link-over-embedded-link.smi" - - Misses second "pass" - - Reason: rtsp URL used - - CWI should work - - Michael: can confirm that - - ACTION: RN- update testfile "switch-ele.smi" - - Misses second "pass" - - Reason: value in system-bandwidth too big - - ACTION: CWI - use lower bandwidth, and rerun test - - ACTION: Philipp - describe resolution of this case in specification: if the bandwidth is higher than an implementation-defined maximum, always ignore the element "switch-new.smi" - - Not in specification - - ACTION: RN/Wo: remove from testcases "sync-par.smi" - - misses second "pass" - - ACTION: RN: make this work "z-clash.smi" - - no pass - - Reason: RTSP URL - - Action: RN - update the test "z-index-anchor.smi" - - Misses second "pass" - - Wo: works for me, only this test doesn't work, because of "ref" - - ACTION: RN: replace "ref" by something that would work for "Wo" Remove z-index attribute for anchor - ----------------------------------- Agreement: this can be done at the editor's discretion, nobody insists on it Philipp: will make an effort to keep it Features that whose support is not yet tested in http://smil.nist.gov/Testcase - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "repeat": - - CWI has full support, according to Washington meeting - - Nabil: works only on media objects, not on "par/seq" Can provide support quickly if needed - - Wo: should work - - ACTION: Nabil - provide support - - ACTION: Wo - test feature - - ACTION: RN - add testcase "fragment-id": - - CWI: support it for one renderer - - ACTION: Jin - will try support - - Philipp: you need a renderer for which this actually makes sense, so this can probably be treated similarily as "embedded SMIL" - - ACTION: RN - add a testcase "fit="scroll"": - - Talking books supports it - - Wo supports it - - ACTION: RN - add a testcase "fit="fill"" - - Wo supports it - - CWI supports it - - ACTION: RN - add a testcase (aside - maybe somebody else could provide the testcases, to lower the load on folks from RN) ACTION: Wo - make player accessible asap Other business - -------------- Dan: How will information on interop test be distributed ? Possibilities range from W3C note to providing a "tar" file with players and tests, so that people can run tests themselves Philipp: Planned to provide link to NIST page Decision - - contact info for people who make claims should be available ACTION: Philipp - Update list of WG members on WG homepage so that this is true Michael: Does "begin/end" for linking have a second implementation ? Didn't see one when I tested - only RN seems to support it Wo: I support this Reminder: ANY MISSING DATA for interop criterion should be reported until TOMORROW 6 PM FRENCH TIME ------- End of Forwarded Message
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