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From: Philipp Hoschka <hoschka@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 20:05:47 +0200
Subject: Minutes telecon June 9
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Please say if you have corrections/additions
Participants
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1) Mark, The Productivity Works
2) George, Daisy Consortium
3) Nabil, INRIA
4) Michael, Bell Labs
5) Warner, Philips
6) Rob, RealNetworks
7) Bruce, RealNetworks
8) Dick, CWI
9) Lloyd, CWI
10) Wo, NIST
11) Jin, DEC
12) Dan, W3C
13) Philipp, W3C
Draft revisions based on feedback
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The current status can be seen at
http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/Group/PR-smil-19980409/
Changes are marked red.
- - Addding "skip-content" to media objects was wrong - please
ignore the previous announcement
- - "show" was added to the "anchor" element
Still to do
- - Namespace id for SMIL is URL of the spec
- - Clarify relation to CSS even more
- - Clarify working of "system-bitrate"
-> connect to server to find out bitrate is one possible
interpretation
-> strike "average", say "approximate bitrate"
-> players can support varying degrees of exactidue in
how they determine the bitrate
ACTION: Rob- suggest wording
Status of interop testing
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Report any missing data within next 24 hours !
ACTION: Bruce/RN - update testfiles based on feedback
from other testers
ACTION: Bruce/RN - make "tar" file of JPEGs available that
are used in RN's testsuite
ACTION: Philipp: Update tar file at W3C
Looking at AT RISK features in
http://smil.nist.gov/Testcase.html
at the time of the telecon:
"anchor-content-skip.smil":
- - 2nd "pass" missing
- - ACTION: Wo will provide implementation
"element-end.smil":
- - 2nd "pass" missing
- - Hope: Jin can do this ??
"embed-smil.smi":
- - No pass
- - not a requirement for interop test
- - ACTION: Wo: mark with a *
"embeded-link.smi":
- - No second pass
- - Reason: uses textstream, not html
- - ACTION: RN: update testfile
- - ACTION: CWI: test it (should work)
"ignore-prologs.smi":
(my notes are a bit sketchy here)
- - No second pass
- - Wo: some problem with his XML parser on this one
- - Doesn't look critical
"link-to-fragment.smi"
- - Misses second "pass"
- - Jin: support the feature
- - Michael: tested other example with HPAS, didn't work
- - Philipp: J{AS pass was recorded at Washington meeting
- - ACTION: Jin - get the test to run, and report it
"smil-link-over-embedded-link.smi"
- - Misses second "pass"
- - Reason: rtsp URL used
- - CWI should work
- - Michael: can confirm that
- - ACTION: RN- update testfile
"switch-ele.smi"
- - Misses second "pass"
- - Reason: value in system-bandwidth too big
- - ACTION: CWI - use lower bandwidth, and rerun test
- - ACTION: Philipp - describe resolution of this case in
specification: if the bandwidth is higher than an
implementation-defined maximum, always ignore the
element
"switch-new.smi"
- - Not in specification
- - ACTION: RN/Wo: remove from testcases
"sync-par.smi"
- - misses second "pass"
- - ACTION: RN: make this work
"z-clash.smi"
- - no pass
- - Reason: RTSP URL
- - Action: RN - update the test
"z-index-anchor.smi"
- - Misses second "pass"
- - Wo: works for me, only this test doesn't work, because of
"ref"
- - ACTION: RN: replace "ref" by something that would work for "Wo"
Remove z-index attribute for anchor
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Agreement: this can be done at the editor's discretion, nobody
insists on it
Philipp: will make an effort to keep it
Features that whose support is not yet tested in http://smil.nist.gov/Testcase
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"repeat":
- - CWI has full support, according to Washington meeting
- - Nabil: works only on media objects, not on "par/seq"
Can provide support quickly if needed
- - Wo: should work
- - ACTION: Nabil - provide support
- - ACTION: Wo - test feature
- - ACTION: RN - add testcase
"fragment-id":
- - CWI: support it for one renderer
- - ACTION: Jin - will try support
- - Philipp: you need a renderer for which this actually makes sense,
so this can probably be treated similarily as "embedded SMIL"
- - ACTION: RN - add a testcase
"fit="scroll"":
- - Talking books supports it
- - Wo supports it
- - ACTION: RN - add a testcase
"fit="fill""
- - Wo supports it
- - CWI supports it
- - ACTION: RN - add a testcase
(aside - maybe somebody else could provide the testcases, to
lower the load on folks from RN)
ACTION: Wo - make player accessible asap
Other business
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Dan: How will information on interop test be distributed ? Possibilities
range from W3C note to providing a "tar" file with players and tests, so
that people can run tests themselves
Philipp: Planned to provide link to NIST page
Decision
- - contact info for people who make claims should be available
ACTION: Philipp - Update list of WG members on WG homepage so that this
is true
Michael: Does "begin/end" for linking have a second implementation ?
Didn't see one when I tested - only RN seems to support it
Wo: I support this
Reminder: ANY MISSING DATA for interop criterion should be reported until
TOMORROW 6 PM FRENCH TIME
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