- From: Axel Dahmen <brille1@hotmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 12:06:02 +0200
- To: site-comments@w3.org
Thanks, Ian. I'm looking forward to your findings. Cheers, Axel Dahmen "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:54344EEF-F5A1-4262-9F4F-A15C173A9461@w3.org... > > On 23 May 2010, at 6:16 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: > >> Hello Ian, >> >> just to get back to the situation I'm observing: >> >> Although I have published a detailed spec on improving the JavaScript >> binding for XPath in the DOM mailing list a long time ago I didn't even >> receive any response indicating that anyone has read my comments on >> that. I understand that the different W3C groups may have different >> priorities, but I would expect to have at least one front-desk person >> available who informs me about where my issues have been forwarded to >> and how they are being dealt with. For example, Microsoft Connect and >> Microsoft Forums work this way. >> >> Same for my CSS discussions: The last comment I received was on March >> 30th. >>> From that day on a long-taking break occurred which lasts until now >>> although >> we had been up to five persons vividly discussing this. From one day to >> the other suddenly no-one replied anymore. And now I don't know what the >> current status of this discussion is. Will there be follow- ups? Is there >> just a two-month period of banking holidays? >> >> This is very frustrating. > > Hi Axel, > > I'm seeking some additional feedback internally. I expect to get back to > you before the end of the week. > > _ Ian > >> >> Cheers, >> Axel Dahmen >> www.axeldahmen.de >> >> >> >> ------------------ >> "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> news:0039AA7B-DC5D-4093-9DCF-607BE3BC5D0A@w3.org >> ... >>> >>> On 2 May 2010, at 6:36 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Ian, >>>> >>>> thanks für replying. >>>> >>>> Yes, you are right, the HTML group was quite responsive, right as the >>>> CSS group was. But from one day to the other I didn't get any further >>>> replies. In no mailing-list or whatsoever. >>> >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> I don't exactly know how the HTML WG responds to issues that are being >>> tracked in bugzilla. I had assumed that when an issue was "closed" >>> (for some definition of "closed") that the commenter would receive >>> notice. >>> >>>> Particularly my comments/proposal on the DOM XPath JavaScript binding >>>> and on Frames Through CSS seem a very important issue to me, because >>>> I believe they take programming in these contexts one step ahead. >>>> >>>> Currently I have the feeling that anything I write ends up either in >>>> a Junk folder or in some killing file. The Bugzilla application on >>>> HTML5 is the only channel I believe I can trust to track back my >>>> content. >>> >>> On the HTML WG home page: >>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/ >>> >>> I see both "bugzilla" and "tracker"; so tracker may offer a way to >>> follow progress as well: >>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/ >>> >>> You may wish to write to the Team contact (Mike Smith >>> <mike@w3.org>) for more information about how to >>> track your suggestions. >>> >>> _ Ian >>> >>>> >>>> (I have requested GMANE to add the site-comments mailing list to its >>>> newsgroup archive. As soon as the group exists there I will continue >>>> from there. I can better read/respond from a threaded environment.) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Axel Dahmen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- Am Do, 29 Apr 2010 05:36:11 -0700 Ian Jacobs >>>> <ij@w3.org> schrieb ---- >>>> >>>>> On 29 Apr 2010, at 1:12 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To whom it may concern, >>>>>> >>>>>> on the W3C website it says "Participate - W3C invites the public to >>>>>> participate in W3C via discussion lists, events, blogs, >>>>>> translations, and other means described below." >>>>>> >>>>>> After unsuccessfully trying to constructively participate in the CSS >>>>>> and DOM mailing lists I now don't believe that the above claim is >>>>>> actually lived. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have made a few contributions pointing to missing features in >>>>>> existing standards and trying to enhance upcoming standards. Yet I >>>>>> don't get a reaction on my postings. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once I had a constructive discussion in the CSS mailing list but >>>>>> that ceased from one day to another. My contributions to the DOM are >>>>>> plainly disregarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is very frustrating, particularly because my contributions are >>>>>> not junk I just throw into public. For most of them I have been >>>>>> revising and researching the background to my comments for almost a >>>>>> week. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is ignoring contributions the way the W3C understands the term >>>>>> "participate"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Your response is highly appreciated. Even to this e-mail. >>>>> >>>>> Hello Axel, >>>>> >>>>> I've looked around the archives a bit. For instance, I see a response >>>>> from the HTML WG editor regarding one of your proposals: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9337 >>>>> >>>>> And I see a discussion here: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6155 >>>>> >>>>> And here: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9235 >>>>> >>>>> I have not looked at all of the threads on which you participated or >>>>> sent ideas (and I have not looked for comments related to the Dom). >>>>> But I do see discussion and contributions from a variety of people on >>>>> the list. For the comments I looked at, your suggestions were not >>>>> simply ignored. It does look like the HTML WG has not taken them up. >>>>> That is a separate matter, and I do understand that that WG has a >>>>> high >>>>> bar for accepting proposals, from people formally in the WG or >>>>> anybody >>>>> else. >>>>> >>>>> The HTML WG adopted a decision policy in November 2009 [1]. I believe >>>>> that the policy sets the expectation that the Editor will make a >>>>> certain number of decisions on behalf of the group, and if those who >>>>> send comments are not satisfied with the Editor's decision, there is >>>>> an escalation process to the WG. I have not researched whether you >>>>> have pursued the escalation path. >>>>> >>>>> _ Ian >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours, sincerely, >>>>>> Axel Dahmen >>>>>> www.axeldahmen.de >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) >>>>> http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >>>>> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) >>> http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >>> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) > http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ > Tel: +1 718 260 9447 > > >
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