- From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:36:21 -0500
- To: Axel Dahmen <brille1@hotmail.com>
- Cc: site-comments@w3.org
On 23 May 2010, at 6:16 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: > Hello Ian, > > just to get back to the situation I'm observing: > > Although I have published a detailed spec on improving the > JavaScript binding for XPath in the DOM mailing list a long time ago > I didn't even receive any response indicating that anyone has read > my comments on that. I understand that the different W3C groups may > have different priorities, but I would expect to have at least one > front-desk person available who informs me about where my issues > have been forwarded to and how they are being dealt with. For > example, Microsoft Connect and Microsoft Forums work this way. > > Same for my CSS discussions: The last comment I received was on > March 30th. >> From that day on a long-taking break occurred which lasts until now >> although > we had been up to five persons vividly discussing this. From one day > to the other suddenly no-one replied anymore. And now I don't know > what the current status of this discussion is. Will there be follow- > ups? Is there just a two-month period of banking holidays? > > This is very frustrating. Hi Axel, I'm seeking some additional feedback internally. I expect to get back to you before the end of the week. _ Ian > > Cheers, > Axel Dahmen > www.axeldahmen.de > > > > ------------------ > "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:0039AA7B-DC5D-4093-9DCF-607BE3BC5D0A@w3.org > ... >> >> On 2 May 2010, at 6:36 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: >> >>> Hi, Ian, >>> >>> thanks für replying. >>> >>> Yes, you are right, the HTML group was quite responsive, right as >>> the CSS group was. But from one day to the other I didn't get any >>> further replies. In no mailing-list or whatsoever. >> >> Hi Alex, >> >> I don't exactly know how the HTML WG responds to issues that are >> being tracked in bugzilla. I had assumed that when an issue was >> "closed" (for some definition of "closed") that the commenter >> would receive notice. >> >>> Particularly my comments/proposal on the DOM XPath JavaScript >>> binding and on Frames Through CSS seem a very important issue to >>> me, because I believe they take programming in these contexts one >>> step ahead. >>> >>> Currently I have the feeling that anything I write ends up either >>> in a Junk folder or in some killing file. The Bugzilla >>> application on HTML5 is the only channel I believe I can trust to >>> track back my content. >> >> On the HTML WG home page: >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/ >> >> I see both "bugzilla" and "tracker"; so tracker may offer a way to >> follow progress as well: >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/ >> >> You may wish to write to the Team contact (Mike Smith >> <mike@w3.org>) for more information about how to track your >> suggestions. >> >> _ Ian >> >>> >>> (I have requested GMANE to add the site-comments mailing list to >>> its newsgroup archive. As soon as the group exists there I will >>> continue from there. I can better read/respond from a threaded >>> environment.) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Axel Dahmen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- Am Do, 29 Apr 2010 05:36:11 -0700 Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> >>> schrieb ---- >>> >>>> On 29 Apr 2010, at 1:12 AM, Axel Dahmen wrote: >>>> >>>>> To whom it may concern, >>>>> >>>>> on the W3C website it says "Participate - W3C invites the public >>>>> to >>>>> participate in W3C via discussion lists, events, blogs, >>>>> translations, and other means described below." >>>>> >>>>> After unsuccessfully trying to constructively participate in the >>>>> CSS >>>>> and DOM mailing lists I now don't believe that the above claim is >>>>> actually lived. >>>>> >>>>> I have made a few contributions pointing to missing features in >>>>> existing standards and trying to enhance upcoming standards. Yet I >>>>> don't get a reaction on my postings. >>>>> >>>>> Once I had a constructive discussion in the CSS mailing list but >>>>> that ceased from one day to another. My contributions to the DOM >>>>> are >>>>> plainly disregarded. >>>>> >>>>> This is very frustrating, particularly because my contributions >>>>> are >>>>> not junk I just throw into public. For most of them I have been >>>>> revising and researching the background to my comments for >>>>> almost a >>>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is ignoring contributions the way the W3C understands the term >>>>> "participate"? >>>>> >>>>> Your response is highly appreciated. Even to this e-mail. >>>> >>>> Hello Axel, >>>> >>>> I've looked around the archives a bit. For instance, I see a >>>> response >>>> from the HTML WG editor regarding one of your proposals: >>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9337 >>>> >>>> And I see a discussion here: >>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6155 >>>> >>>> And here: >>>> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9235 >>>> >>>> I have not looked at all of the threads on which you participated >>>> or >>>> sent ideas (and I have not looked for comments related to the Dom). >>>> But I do see discussion and contributions from a variety of >>>> people on >>>> the list. For the comments I looked at, your suggestions were not >>>> simply ignored. It does look like the HTML WG has not taken them >>>> up. >>>> That is a separate matter, and I do understand that that WG has >>>> a high >>>> bar for accepting proposals, from people formally in the WG or >>>> anybody >>>> else. >>>> >>>> The HTML WG adopted a decision policy in November 2009 [1]. I >>>> believe >>>> that the policy sets the expectation that the Editor will make a >>>> certain number of decisions on behalf of the group, and if those >>>> who >>>> send comments are not satisfied with the Editor's decision, there >>>> is >>>> an escalation process to the WG. I have not researched whether you >>>> have pursued the escalation path. >>>> >>>> _ Ian >>>> >>>> [1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yours, sincerely, >>>>> Axel Dahmen >>>>> www.axeldahmen.de >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >>>> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ >> Tel: +1 718 260 9447 >> >> >> > > > -- Ian Jacobs (ij@w3.org) http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs/ Tel: +1 718 260 9447
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