Re: Where has the FOAF spec gone ?

Hi Peter,

I couldn't agree more with you. The lack of such processes/collaboration
space and "easy to use" open-source tooling in the semantic space was why
we'd built plow.pm, including a hosted registry that is designed for
federated use. It's the same as you know it from modern package managers
like npm, crates, etc.

One aspect is collaboration in the process of further advancing ontologies.
But with that, you want to have version stability so that the community can
rely on version availability, not being forced to update and upgrade as
external parties apply changes implicitly. For the public packages we've
put on the registry, we coordinate pre-submission questions and
clarifications in a public GitHub repo, including a lint on PRs.

Ideally, we could also see more modularization in ontologies, e.g. a core
foaf ontology and package dependents that localize aspects or optionally
extend domain-specific elements.

By that, it would also be more accessible/ more engaging to contribute and
use those ontologies.

Best,
Daniel

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 20:26:35, Peter Rivett <
pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dan and Georg,
> The latest version is a lot cleaner than I recall.
>
> However what I was really looking for was a more formal/transparent
> process for managing the ontology going forward e.g. via a GitHub
> repository, so people could raise and track issues and see them resolved in
> a new version.
> For example, the provision of only firstName and lastName, though it
> reflects most IT systems in the US, is pretty Anglo-centric and does not
> even encompass Portuguese naming.
> And the social media/chat IDs are pretty outmoded - MSN Chat, Yahoo Chat
> etc. and no Twitter, Mastodon, TikTok, Discord etc. Or LinkTree.
> My new company, Golden, manages an open, crowd-sourced Knowledge Graph
> (see https://golden.com) with several such properties driven by community
> demand https://dapp.golden.xyz/
> schema?template=0c4e6054-5fd8-48a8-817c-f6611278f755 and being able to
> provide our triples as FOAF could be of interest.
>
> Regards,
> Pete
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Georg Rehm <georg.rehm@dfki.de>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2023 8:58 AM
> *To:* Peter Rivett <pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.com>
> *Cc:* Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>; Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>;
> semantic-web@w3.org <semantic-web@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Where has the FOAF spec gone ?
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> regarding FOAF: the company Field 33 provides an Open Source registry
> called Plow which hosts a mirror of FOAF (and various other ontologies):
>
> https://registry.field33.com/field/@foaf_mirror/foaf/0.99.0
>
> Plow is an ontology registry and package manager that provides version
> resolution and dependency management.
>
> Daniel had posted the link back in December but due to changes in the
> backend the link didn’t work, but now it does (again).
>
> All the best,
> Georg
>
>
>
> On 22. Feb 2023, at 22:08, Peter Rivett <pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.
> com> wrote:
>
> What's the chance of getting some (semi-formal) governance over this
> widely-used spec, e.g. ability to raise issues, agree changes, release new
> versions etc. ?
> Immediate aim IMO would be to get rid of dead external links (not sure if
> they're still in the latest) - which actually constitute a security risk
> (if someone buys up those domains and installs something malicious).
>
> I'd be happy to help
>
> Regards
> Pete
>
>
> Pete Rivett (pete.rivett@federatedknowledge.com)
> Federated Knowledge, LLC (LEI 98450013F6D4AFE18E67)
> tel: +1-701-566-9534
> Schedule a meeting at https://calendly.com/rivettp
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2023 6:13 AM
> *To:* Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>
> *Cc:* semantic-web@w3.org <semantic-web@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Where has the FOAF spec gone ?
>
>
> Easter 2023
>
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 13:32, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
>
> On 2022-11-03 18:49, Dan Brickley wrote:
> > Apologies for the outage, but it's nice that folks miss this!
>
> If/when will it be back?
>
> -Sarven
> https://csarven.ca/#i
>
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