Re: Open Access publishing of Semantic Web research

On 11/2/22 11:04, Axel Polleres wrote:
 > Congrats, great piece which I really enjoyed reading!

Agreed, fantastic write-up and proposal!  And thanks for such detailed 
research.

I'm very glad to see this initiative.  I've long felt that pay-walled 
publications should not be viewed as publications at all, for purposes 
such as getting tenure.

Institutions that reward researchers for publishing in pay-walled 
journals are irresponsibly HARMING science . . . AND costing themselves 
a lot of money in access fees.

Thanks,
David Booth

> Two small remarks:
> 
> 1)
> FWIW, I would add one more point in "Journal pain-points"
> the strict deadlines in conference revieweing and - at least perceived - 
> less strict deadlines in journal reviews, community journals slower 
> overall in CS, compared to other communities. I have to admit that I 
> only have annectotal proof for this, it was mentioned I believe in a 
> panel on the issue with e.g. Moshe Vardi and Sweitze Roffel onboard at 
> FLOC in Vienna's summer of logic a couple of years ago.
> 
> I think this is an important factor across conferences and journal in a 
> confrerence-culture heavy community like ours.... could be added under 
> "Poor reviewer incentives:".
> 
> 2) While sthey're still exclusively publishing with Springer, I found 
> the 2-tier publishing model of BPM conference very interesting, where 
> papers can be accepted as full conference papers (in Springer's LNCS) or 
> in the "BPM Forum", see https://dblp.org/db/conf/bpm/index.html 
> <https://dblp.org/db/conf/bpm/index.html> for less mature papers 
> (published in Springers less prestigeous(?) "Lecture Notes in Business 
> Information Processing" series.
> This allows them to accept more papers, and would be combinable IMHO 
> with a journal model for the top tier papers.
> I find this model interesting to consider when re-thinking a mixed 
> journal/conference model and it would be interesting to explore routes 
> to combine with the VLDB model, or in other words would lend itself to a 
> *combination of Option1+Option2* as one.
> 
> 
> just my two cents,
> 
> Axel
> 
> 
> p.s.: also left this as comment on your blog, thanks again, also for the 
> great gathertown discussion with Claudia and yourself at ISWC!
> 
> --
> Prof. Dr. Axel Polleres
> Institute for Data, Process and Knowledge Management, WU Vienna
> url: http://www.polleres.net/ <http://www.polleres.net/>  twitter: 
> @AxelPolleres
> 
>> On 02.11.2022, at 05:16, Aidan Hogan <aidhog@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:aidhog@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Inspired by discussions at the ISWC Townhall, and previously at the 
>> JWS plenary call, I published a blog post here discussing the issues 
>> of Open Access publishing in the context of Semantic Web research:
>>
>> https://aidanhogan.com/blog/index.php/2022/10/27/publishing-research-semantic-web/ <https://aidanhogan.com/blog/index.php/2022/10/27/publishing-research-semantic-web/>
>>
>> Also adding in CC members of the SWSA task force set to look into this 
>> issue; as well as Uli and Claudia with whom we discussed this issue 
>> for ISWC 2022; Pascal and Krzysztof as EiC's of SWJ; as well as Jim, 
>> Zhixiong and Ying as EiCs of Data Intelligence. (Apologies; I know 
>> some of you are already on the list.)
>>
>> The post covers the context of the OA issue, why there is a push to 
>> move away from publishers like Elsevier (in particular) and Springer, 
>> different types of OA, advantages and disadvantages of different types 
>> of OA, precedents for conferences and journals in CS that have moved 
>> to (zero-fee) Diamond OA and (inexpensive) Gold OA, general issues 
>> relating to the conference vs. journal paradigm in CS, precedents of 
>> CS conferences that have moved partially towards a journal model, and 
>> a concrete proposal for how publishing research on the Semantic Web 
>> could potentially look in future (as some food for thought).
>>
>> I hope you might find the post interesting! And hopefully it's not too 
>> long (I wanted to cover the issue in a self-contained and fairly 
>> complete way for those also maybe new to the topic).
>>
>> Comments welcome!
>>
>> Best,
>> Aidan
>

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