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Re: Chartering work has started for a Linked Data Signature Working Group @W3C

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 21:28:45 -0400
To: semantic-web@w3.org
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On 5/24/21 2:58 PM, Gregg Kellogg wrote:
>> On May 24, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org 
>> <mailto:danbri@danbri.org>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 16:47, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com 
>> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     ...
>>
>>
>> Yeah. Peter picked up and ran with my main outstanding technical question 
>> on the input documents which was about recursion.
>>
>> There remain larger expectation-management questions along lines of who 
>> should expect this WG's products to be relevant to their work - e.g. large 
>> scale RDF publication, the Linked Open Data Cloud kinds of site, or 
>> Wikidata, DBpedia, Yago, ... or ordinary sites publishingSchema.org 
>> <http://schema.org/>markup? Do we envisage 
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps 
>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps>being 
>> improved by this work in a couple of years, for example?
>
> I see a couple of issues here:
>
> * How do you sign a signed dataset,
> * How do you extract just the signature bits, particularly if there are 
> multiple parallel signatures, or recursive signatures,
> * Can a signature block contain any information that could convey some 
> unsigned information that is subject to misrepresentation.

Indeed.

>
> I’m not sure we need to answer these questions now, but they should be among 
> the list of prerequisites for the WG to address. There is always the 
> potential that there are problems that can’t be solved which could lead to 
> the failure of one or more normative specs to advance, but that is always 
> the case. It becomes a judgement if the time is worth investing weighing the 
> probability that such questions can be properly answered.

Agreed.

A big problem, in my view, is the impression being given that all the problems 
have been solved.  And not just solved but examined, signed off, and implemented.

peter
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