Re: Lists of tagged strings in RDF

Why is the list syntax ( ) not satisfactofy?

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 12.07, Rumph, Frens Jan <mail@frensjan.nl> wrote:

> Dear readers,
>
> I am investigating transitioning an application to use RDF. One roadblock
> is how this application models names of persons. It supports
> straight-forward full names as a single string, but also supports
> decomposed names, e.g. person X has given name *Frens* followed by a second
> given name *Jan* followed by the family name *Rumph*.
>
> Note that this is a crosspost of
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65982459/rdf-modelling-of-list-of-name-elements
> <https://stackoverflow..com/questions/65982459/rdf-modelling-of-list-of-name-elements>.
> I hope to get some more
>
> The data structure is something like:
>
> ```java
> enum Role {
>    ...
>    GIVEN_NAME,
>    FAMILY_NAME,
>    ...
> }
>
> record NameElement(role: Role, value: String) {}
>
> record AnnotatedName(NameElement... elements) {}
> ```
>
> in order to be instantiated like:
>
> ```java
> var name = new AnnotatedName(
>     new NameElement(GIVEN_NAME, "Frens"),
>     new NameElement(GIVEN_NAME, "Jan"),
>     new NameElement(FAMILY_NAME, "de Vries")
> );
> ```
>
> This allows reconstruction of the name into a string while at the same
> time expressing the components of the name. So it captures the roles of the
> elements of a name (e.g. given names, family names) *as well as* their
> order (given names aren't first everywhere). Also, it allows expressing
> multiple names. E.g. in multiple languages / scripts. Or even aliases used
> in different areas of the world.
>
> I have toyed around with some RDF constructs, but none are really
> satisfactory:
>
> ```turtle
> # list of strings misusing data types as tags
> :frens :name ( "Frens"^^:givenName "Jan"^^:givenName "de
> Vries"^^:familyName ) .
>
> # list of blank nodes
> :frens :name ( [ :givenName "Frens" ]
>                [ :givenName "Jan" ]
>                [ :familyName "de Vries" ] ) .
>
> # single blank node with unordered 'elements'
> :frens :name [ a           :AnnotatedPersonName ;
>                :fullName   "Frens Jan de Vries" ;
>                :givenName  "Frens" ;
>                :givenName  "Jan" ;
>                :familyName "de Vries" ] .
> ```
>
> ---
>
> **Existing ontologies for HD names?**
> Is there an existing ontology that covers such 'high fidelity'? FOAF and
> vcard have some relevant properties, but aren't able to capture this level
> of semantics.
>
> **Lists?** One major 'blocker' in migrating this approach to RDF is the
> notion of order that is used. If at all possible, I'd like to stay away
> from the List / Container swamp in RDF land ...
>
> I'd be grateful for any thoughts on the matter!
>
> Best regards,
> Frens Jan
>